a cousin point to my "Make Lying Costly Again" ministry - evidence and good faith warrants for claims are nice - ThreadSky

olufemiotaiwo.bsky.social • 2 days ago

a cousin point to my "Make Lying Costly Again" ministry - evidence and good faith warrants for claims are nice

A new study has examined 8 million speeches from 140 years of Congress, showing a massive decline in evidence-based language since the 1970s.

www.iflscience.com/use-of-facts...

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thebullypulpit.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump, Poilievre, Bolsonaro, Boris Johnson are the symptom of what you denounce: we (media, colleagues, voters) stopped holding the liars accountable, convinced as we were by the FoxNewses of the world that "they all do it".

1) No, they don’t.
2) Those who do MUST start reaping consequences.

anineffablegrump.bsky.social•2 days ago

revelation as a knowledge source is so perfect for political "intuition" though, its hard to not be fatalist people like mike johnson will always find a home in some sort of vaguely evangelical political project

tonylizza.bsky.social•2 days ago

This reminds me of the Nixon vs. Kennedy through line in season 1 of Mad Men. “Message received. And forgotten.”

And of course that started in the 1960s, but maybe it took 10 years to make it to the floor of Congress.

snoburne.bsky.social•2 days ago

Wonder if this is conjunction with the 'Business-ification' of our legislative branch. C-suites love to shoot from the hip and ask casualties later.

freeangelica.bsky.social•2 days ago

Also seeing too much of, "you've let education cloud your mind, have you considered that your point of view has been corrupted by education" commentary...an incredible flip on religiosity 🙃

sbrodsky.bsky.social•2 days ago

This is the thing I come back to most. How does one construct and advance legal reforms against lying? Or is it really only culture?

olufemiotaiwo.bsky.social•2 days ago

I think laws will likely be downstream of (stage 1 of) a cultural shift here

sbrodsky.bsky.social•2 days ago

My version of this cultural shift involves completely unpostable things sigh

nataliebrender.bsky.social•1 day ago

Fully on board with your anti-lying ministry; but studies like this--and all the closely parallel studies seeking to diagnose/reverse the 'decline of trust in science' or 'decline of evidence in policymaking'--are based on such rickety understandings of politics and political discourse.

nataliebrender.bsky.social•1 day ago

imho this article takes a better tack in asking under what conditions evidence/science seems to be considered relevant to policymaking. https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/publications/under-what-conditions-science-considered-relevant-authoritative-policymaking/

whitneyepi.bsky.social•1 day ago

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cbruunjensen.bsky.social•23 hours ago

and there is the whole sub-field of science and technology (Sts) studies dealing with related issues

mthompsonbrusstar.com•1 day ago

agree— also you can look at the use of science and scientific literature more directly as @alexanderfurnas.com and coauthors do

https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/aep9v_v1