What's somewhat interesting about radical Trumpism is that there clearly is some form of racial order (see e.g. the whining about DEI) in place that drives it - but as long as you're loyal to the Duce, that can be ignored.
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To a point. You have to be loyal to Trump but you also have to uphold the white male power structure. Even then, you're best hope is second-best status.
Putin has a more advanced version of this, "our folks"- people who are from ethnic or religious minorities but are "Russians first". This allows him to get support from those groups and keep a bit of a lid on those tensions overall, while still leveraging biases against them when convenient.
I’ve been reading Richard Evan’s “Third Reich in Power.” Hitler had the ability to personally certify a person’s Germanness if it was in question eg for Jewish ancestry.
Trump's racism isn't really a coherent belief system, but more like an "ick". Some people are "icky" to Trump. (Brown skinned people. The poor. The disabled. Non-sexualized women. Kids.)
But there's no hierarchy. You're either icky or you're not.
that's how most fascism worked, with the exception of the Nazis (who later forced the others to be similarly uncompromising in their racial vision) -- many Jewish people supported Mussolini and were in his inner circle, they were only hunted and killed after the formal alliance with Hitler
yeah, i was thinking that despite Trumpism's weird polyarchy when it comes to power, the actual inherent ideology seems closer to Austrian/Italian experiences then the German one, at least for now
“for now” is correct. I’ll assume you’re talking about Kash and the thing is, it’s not gonna last. They PedoCons are gonna be seething after being forced to see him behind a podium at every high profile press conference about a crime. Look how long Vivek lasted.
very much agreed -- Naziism is the outlier when it comes to fascism, most of them were the corporatist/conservative Catholic inspired/veteran focused variety
back in the day these two factions really didn't like each other, there were "naziphilic" factions dissenting in major fasc parties
it certainly was racist, but what I'm saying is that race wasn't the foundational center of their worldview -- and unlike the Nazis, who only had like one or two people they thought of as Jews as members, the Italian Fascist Party had many more
We castigate folks like Papen and Hindenburg for thinking they could subordinate the Nazis into being useful idiots for a more traditional reactionary regime... but in most interwar fascist or adjacent regimes, that tactic worked!
The story of interwar Japan is to a large extent the story of the old military aristocracy using the hardcore fascist ideologues like Kita Ikki in service of their own interests and then casting them aside when they'd outlived their usefulness.
yes, especially because the Young Officers and similar movements had no real governing program beyond a vague idea of a "family" led by the Emperor. They flamed out and a coalition of militarists took Japan to war
King Carol II's dictatorship in Romania had the Romanian fascist leader Codreanu assassinated. Horthy in Hungary had the Arrow Cross outlawed. The Zveno dictatorship in Bulgaria's whole raison d'etre was crushing IMRO. Reactionary dictatorships often saw hardcore fascists as a chaotic nuisance.
I'd argue that Franco's gov was similarly -- military reached for an ideology that was sympathetic to them that they could ultimately control without letting it control them
yeah! i've always told students that there were basically two things that could stop fascists once they got big enough to contest state power: one is a major conservative party taking over the right-wing coalition, and the second is the Red Army shooting them
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The same applies to women.
If you’re not white you’re presumed bad until you prove otherwise (by kissing ass).
But there's no hierarchy. You're either icky or you're not.
And if you're useful he can overlook the "ick".
back in the day these two factions really didn't like each other, there were "naziphilic" factions dissenting in major fasc parties
https://www.dubnow.de/en/research-project/schmeing-jews-in-the-italian-fascist-party#:~:text=The%20four%20individuals%20in%20question,routes%20into%20the%20Fascist%20Party.
Those were the days we thought would never end.
trump is of the bullying/social/italian jock camp; stephen miller, vance, the phrenology club et al are the creep school.
https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-jockcreep-theory-of-fascism
He invented racial "galicians" and declared Bosniaks as "Persian" migrants, hence Aryans