Not sure there's such a thing as an "average Yank." However, every American I know is shocked, saddened, dismayed, and outraged over our government's deranged moves re: Canada & Mexico. This is one of those times when it's utterly necessary to separate the government from the citizens.
Add in that the EU would not lie passive, nor would most of the US population. A US invasion of Canada would trigger a civil war within the US almost instantaneously.
I mean, to be quite frank, my recent experiences with the Canadian Army, specifically 3 RCR, have not been very impressive. Tactically and logistically speaking, the Canadian Army is in a sorry state if they’re representative of the organization.
And I mean this quite genuinely and without malice, the Canadian Forces are in desperate and deep need of dramatic reform to be capable of doing what your Government is asking of them. They’re underfunded, underpaid, and under appreciated to the point of near impotency.
I cannot speak to their performance in combat environments, but after their poor driving nearly killed me and several other soldiers and their tactical performance was utterly garbage at a recent exercise, I’m not confident, to be quite honest.
But the majority of Canadian forces are woefully underfunded and under resourced. You have some structural advantages that can drive performance but letting a pilot crash a ch-47 twice is just nuts.
part of the issue here is that up till now, both Tory and Liberal governments have more or less coasted on a friendly US and NATO commitments - now that neither may be set in stone, i suspect we're going to see a revision when it comes to natsec
You can't undo over three decades of spending less than 2% of GDP on defense in four years though, and in a conflict with the US your troops wouldn't be able to make up for it with good discipline and determination either, even having both in abundance.
Not that resistance would be futile but I would expect a full scale war to relatively quickly shift to a insurgency agaisnt occupational forces and civil conflict in the Lower 48 rather than a conventional conflict like in Ukraine/Russia, especially with Canada's European allies preoccupied
I have seen people saying "Canada needs to get back to being as active as we were on the world stage in the wars" and I do not think anyone is prepared for how *popular* that might be domestically. Nor what it means.
I do and I am. I've long argued against the seduction of having more money left from your paycheck at the expense of degraded public services. I'd much rather have effective national defense and the tax burden that goes with it.
Yeah, I think it's worth remembering that the people who would be expected to wage war on Canada are probably statistically the Americans who respect Canadians the most
I don’t know a single veteran that would take up against a Canadian. I’ve flown on your aircraft in mixed crews and with British operators as well. There’s plenty of brain dead troops, but not an invasion sized zombie army. This belligerence will change minds. I think they’re asking for trouble.
Musk and Trump are also currently in the process of "vetting" generals for "loyalty." The fact that they're concerned or afraid there suggests to me possible military coup.
Hypothetically if the unthinkable should happen, I honestly think that you'd see a lot of people crossing the line. The entire concept is foolish, stupid, and completely disrespectful to the fighting men and women on both sides.
Not to mention, historically, Canadian units in both WWs did absolutely batshit heroic shit shoulder to shoulder with other allied forces and it gets America washed (here in the states).
We have a diseased culture and media environment and a bunch of deeply uninformed, irresponsible, and/or wicked citizens elected a dangerous, unstable demagogue as a result. We deserve the bad that's coming to us but I hope we don't inflict it on anyone else.
Orange Ruzzian doesn’t have the attention span of a nat, but on this he’s memorized every directive Putin advanced: Attack friends, tariffs, stab nato in the back, crash the US economy and maga cheers the destruction.
Tbh the saddest part of this is that Americans and Canadians worked so hard together in various NATO operations and were just all pissing that away on the ravings of a sundowning president
Tbh even sadder is the Greenland stuff. Denmark has been nothing but a loyal little friend to the US. There have been NATO operations where the casualties per capita were the highest among Danes. And all that because we chose a president far too stupid to understand the Mercator projection.
What is a friend to America if not a sucker?
Why did the "western" countries think they're above the types of treatment that American allies like Saddam or Noriega received?
Don't need to memoryhole anything if you never knew about it. The average American barely knows what NATO is, and if they do, they think it consists of the US military and a platoon of French mimes
Well, giving our secretary defense at the moment is literally going to idiots that thinks the army commercials are real. It's probably going to crash in quality here
Remember that in some political circles
"Take DEI-Toronto due to our superior Doge-Masculinity anti-Woke based trad Make-America-Great-Again"
is a patriotic mantra that one must repeat in order to not get excommunicated.
"Strong men create good times. Thus, invading Canada has to be easy, because otherwise that'll be bad times.
I think Trump is strong, so victory is assured!"
It's attempting to use "Historical destiny" to countermand reality. Except with memes instead of actual history.
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But I was specifically speaking to service records and deployments.
But the majority of Canadian forces are woefully underfunded and under resourced. You have some structural advantages that can drive performance but letting a pilot crash a ch-47 twice is just nuts.
he's not *alone* in that but I think we can make some informed guesses to the reasons
https://youtu.be/g1awwAgU_t8?si=pRzEfyTTFZPP4vjc
BAN X IN CANADA FIRST..HES GONNA CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE OF THAT HOCKEY LOSS
Why did the "western" countries think they're above the types of treatment that American allies like Saddam or Noriega received?
"Take DEI-Toronto due to our superior Doge-Masculinity anti-Woke based trad Make-America-Great-Again"
is a patriotic mantra that one must repeat in order to not get excommunicated.
"Our memes say we must win, so we'll win. QED"
I think Trump is strong, so victory is assured!"
It's attempting to use "Historical destiny" to countermand reality. Except with memes instead of actual history.