I worked at a Catholic institution a while back, under another, much more conservative Pope. A lot of people there were very much into "respecting Papal authority." I haven't checked back in with them, but I imagine they are singing a different tune these days. apnews.com/article/pope... - ThreadSky

heissenstat.bsky.social • 29 days ago

I worked at a Catholic institution a while back, under another, much more conservative Pope. A lot of people there were very much into "respecting Papal authority."

I haven't checked back in with them, but I imagine they are singing a different tune these days.

https://apnews.com/article/pope-trump-migration-09a89091f8e7dc3270099f0947d04e90

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pierocastellano.com•29 days ago

It makes me miss the good old times when emperors could be excommunicated and had to repent and beg for forgiveness barefoot in the snow. Guess that ended with Henry VIII but still.

datamule.bsky.social•29 days ago

McElroy has recently been appointed archbishop of Washington, DC. He has degrees from Harvard and Stanford, so is clearly a "coastal elite." ;)

https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/catholic-diocese-of-san-diego-holds-a-procession-to-stand-with-immigrant-families

brandon-h.bsky.social•29 days ago

I have a priest who stops just short of calling Francis an agent of evil infiltrating the Vatican, in the sense of "I'm not saying it *is* happening right now, but it may be". The same priest openly attends gatherings of Republicans to discuss politics.

thevoicesinmyhead.com•29 days ago

I feel like American Catholics are one charismatic, populist bishop away from full schism.

quercus48.bsky.social•29 days ago

I don’t know why right wing Catholics are still in the Church. They seem to fit in better with the harshest evangelical churches.

bobroff.bsky.social•29 days ago

CINOs, Catholics in name only says this Catholic.

grayestjedi.bsky.social•29 days ago

Wait… The Pope is a Christian?!?!?

frandroid.bsky.social•29 days ago

Curiously, they only respect Papal authority when he's authoritarian.

bobsmacbox.bsky.social•29 days ago

How long has JD been a catholic to know more about catholic philosophy, principle, theology and practice than the bishops and the pope. The holy water is not even dry on his forehead yet.

goodnewsjunkie.bsky.social•29 days ago

"Cafeteria Plan" Catholics. (Evangelicals don't have a monopoly on hypocrisy.)

tatertot1381.bsky.social•29 days ago

As a lifelong Catholic who recently left my local Catholic church here in rural America, I can confirm the current Pope is not well liked. He has been likened to agents of the "deep state," called a false Pope, and a liberal disgrace.

kdrsisu.bsky.social•25 days ago

I’m sure those rural Americans are just fine having Trump as president and ending free lunch programs for rural poor children.
Jesus works in mysterious ways.
The Catholic Church is out of touch.
Burke was not only kicked out of the Vatican, he was kicked out of STL. he was despised there.

jmc-55.bsky.social•29 days ago

I would question the notion that the Catholic Church in rural America represents the church following as a whole.

tatertot1381.bsky.social•29 days ago

Hence why I specified my local rural church.

jmc-55.bsky.social•28 days ago

So then, insignificant and not really indicative of anything? No offense, but it doesn’t seem to add anything to the conversation.

tatertot1381.bsky.social•28 days ago

My what an unnecessary reply. Doesn't take much poking around to find examples of the sentiment running through Catholic leadership. Cardinal Raymond Burke or Fr. James Altman or Bishop Joseph Strickland, for example.

mike-demo.bsky.social•27 days ago

Sounds like a remark from a conservative Baptist.

enots406.bsky.social•29 days ago

Every protest should remind their flock that the pope is literally the emissary of God and was chosen by God to lead the Church.

rajivmote.bsky.social•29 days ago

There's just a different view of who the Pope actually is now.

enots406.bsky.social•29 days ago

Vance needs to be excommunicated. The guy is an apostate at best and a heretic at worst.

brothergabriel.bsky.social•29 days ago

Absolutely. As both a seminarian and a student under the previous two popes, including 4 years at Franciscan University, the term “Holy Father” was used (also on EWTN)…now? Not so much.

droid41.bsky.social•29 days ago

I imagine most of them are saying something similar to "Well, he's not speaking ex cathedra, so it's just his opinion."

johnywisc.bsky.social•29 days ago

In the past, when Francis made humanitarian declarations or talked about human duty to protect the environment, my conservative Catholic friends would explain it away with "actually the Pope really meant...".

johnywisc.bsky.social•29 days ago

This current statement about immigrants is written very clearly, with no wiggle room for nationalist apologetics

zoufan14.bsky.social•29 days ago

I'm sure - based on my oldest brother for whom Benedict was infallible, but who conveniently believes Francis should be ignored.

daveb16.bsky.social•29 days ago

If you want to describe yourself as a good, practicing Catholic, whatever the Pope says is UNQUESTIONABLY TRUE, regardless of whether you agree with it.

Full stop.

katepupulu.bsky.social•29 days ago

Both the Pope and Jesus are considered too leftist for today's American Catholics.

jjerke.bsky.social•29 days ago

that grifter bishop dolan in NY is a big part of the problem in the US

marty1776.bsky.social•29 days ago

Remember when the Pope said that both sides were evil???? He had a chance to take a stand and decided not to. We all knew what Trump was, including the Pope. He is complacent with the removal of the immigrants and everything that happens to them. He had blood on his hands.

mescherer.bsky.social•29 days ago

Agree. His silence was disappointing and deafening when it mattered.

60hzhum.bsky.social•29 days ago

"Not MY Pope!" I'm guessing

gloriamiele.bsky.social•29 days ago

Christmas Eve 2019, a bright, smiling older couple wearing Christmas finest in their usual pew in the local Catholic Church gave two thumbs down when my mother naively said, “Pope Francis is wonderful-so full of love.” 🙄

gloriamiele.bsky.social•29 days ago

That is to say, for many the rejection of this Pope and his “Jesus” brand of Catholicism is not new.

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