These are then available to use in any starter adventures, examples of play etc. If you, the authors, can’t produce an example of an archetype, how can you expect readers to do it - no matter how clear the explanations. - ThreadSky

squadronuk.bsky.social • 4 days ago

These are then available to use in any starter adventures, examples of play etc.

If you, the authors, can’t produce an example of an archetype, how can you expect readers to do it - no matter how clear the explanations.

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stardustspectrum.bsky.social•4 days ago

interesting, i was just running down all of the examples for the stardust spectrum, and its a lot of extra work, but i think the point stands that it is important to provide strong examples but i am tired..... lol

vodkashok.bsky.social•4 days ago

Example of infantalisation of gamers? How can we POSSIBLY create a character without a worked example? Oh I dunno, we managed it for literally decades perfectly well. Even when we had never played before - the idea that new players are idiots but old gamers weren't vexes disproportionately!

squadronuk.bsky.social•4 days ago

I understand completely. But I wasn’t asking for a WORKED example for each one. I was pointing out that a COMPLETED example might be useful and, presumably, a fairly easy inclusion. At least one play tester must have a character you can use.

vodkashok.bsky.social•4 days ago

Whats the difference, on the sheet, between a D&D fighter and a barbarian? A slight variation of numbers (HP, AC, HD) and some different words in abilities. That doesn't provide a guide on how to effectively play the character or class, nor does it give any insight into the process of getting there.

vodkashok.bsky.social•4 days ago

If the idea is that games producers add say, a free downloadable PDF with multiple examples of PCs, with variations for gender, background, artwork etc. to allow people to pick-up and play, then fantastic. Great, almost certainly evergreen resource, which can be updated. Just not in the rulebook

vodkashok.bsky.social•4 days ago

As an example of the above from @evilgaz.bsky.social

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/512196/savage-worlds-pirate-crew

homebrewandhacking.bsky.social•4 days ago

If you, the designer, can't make a character that works properly, let alone well, then why do you think players/ potential customers will enjoy your game as intended?

Bizarre thought process with so many bad pregens.

"Players make bad characters".

Are they trying to get your money? Then shut up.

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