I will have to do my homework with your references I think you should mention YOUR position and HIS position on the #Budapest Memorandum Because I'm pretty sure you have NOT mentioned it yet, and I am REALLY puzzled by this #FACT ... do you understand my position? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapes... - ThreadSky

stphrolland.bsky.social • 4 days ago

I will have to do my homework with your references

I think you should mention YOUR position and HIS position on the
#Budapest Memorandum

Because I'm pretty sure you have NOT mentioned it yet, and I am REALLY puzzled by this #FACT ... do you understand my position?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

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przemyslslaw.bsky.social•4 days ago

The core of the issue is that we perceive NATO as a neutral defensive alliance, but in reality it was created to counter USSR (later Russia). We may want to replace it with an independent EU army, so that the EU takes care of its security and interests.

przemyslslaw.bsky.social•4 days ago

Sounds good. What I've heard so far from a source I trust, but I didn't verify: 1) nuclear weapons were in Ukraine physically, but Ukraine didn't own them and wasn't able to fully operate them without some Russian assistance. 2) the US told USSR that NATO won't expand to the east, but they did.

stphrolland.bsky.social•4 days ago

Vladimir #Putin also said that #Talibans were the #Allies for #AntiTerrorism war

Vladimir Putin also said that #Chechnya was #Islamist:

So when Vladimir Putin says US told that NATO would not expand: I think he PURPOSEFULLY omit the fact that it's a CANDIDACY

Not expansion/INVASION like #RUSSIA

przemyslslaw.bsky.social•4 days ago

Of course, Putin says a lot of wrong things, but he is not the one who started these claims:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_regarding_the_legitimacy_of_eastward_NATO_expansion

stphrolland.bsky.social•4 days ago

I will have to look at that more closely

But I tell you again: Watch out! you are repeating clear #Kremlin NARRATIVE points

przemyslslaw.bsky.social•4 days ago

I know, but so far, we've been repeating the US narrative and look how this ends. We aren't even at the negotiating table, and Ukraine will most likely be forced to make concessions to Russia and the US. If we don't adapt, then empires will pick Europe apart, starting from the east and Greenland.

stphrolland.bsky.social•4 days ago

YOU'RE REPEATING #Putin 's narrative, be careful
Unless that is your goal?

I am French, and #France has been IN and OUT and IN, in #NATO commands: FREELY!

Visibily one can exit NATO anyway/anywhen: one ASKS for it
And one can enter NATO: when ASKING for it

That's what they use the word CANDIDACY

stphrolland.bsky.social•4 days ago

Why do you use the word EXPANSION?

It is a candidacy!
So surprising you do not use the RIGHT word?
That is exactly the talking point asked to #Russian #Ambassadors when they go on TV. Look at them!

they are asked to say it's a #NATO #expansion
they never say those joining Nato "ARE ASKING FOR IT"

przemyslslaw.bsky.social•4 days ago

Of course, Europe needs a security solution, so it's not surprising that Poland and others wanted to join NATO. So far, NATO was sufficient, but with this war, we're starting to see its limitations.

stphrolland.bsky.social•4 days ago

One moment, don't go to fast, we'll discuss geopolitics later

I'll read your resources. And I'll come back for discussing.
You still have not said anything about Budapest Memorandum!!!

NICE JOB evading/dodging the RESPONSIBILITY for RUSSIA to respect #UKRAINE security & borders ;-)

I need time

stphrolland.bsky.social•4 days ago

I think #chechnya was not #islamist when #russia invaded and bombed its cities

So I think Russia narratives are not the best narratives to study
Even if proven useful

An agressor "always" play the victim when indeed he just want to cheat & deceive - that's fair play in actual war "games/strategy"

stphrolland.bsky.social•4 days ago

And the more I think of it, the more I think that #chechnya was not #islamist when #Eltsin and #Putin decided to destroy them, like #Putin does with #Ukraine

I don't know why, maybe the mustaches, maybe the fact he let #Estonia be #INDEPENDENT

Dzhokhar #Dudayev : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar_Dudayev

stphrolland.bsky.social•4 days ago

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