Europeans (France, Germany, UK, EU) were closely involved in (successful) Iranian nuclear talks leading to 2015 agreement. But now they are being excluded from Ukraine peace talks that will determine the course of European security. Unbelievable. www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/0... - ThreadSky

maxboot.bsky.social • 5 days ago

Europeans (France, Germany, UK, EU) were closely involved in (successful) Iranian nuclear talks leading to 2015 agreement. But now they are being excluded from Ukraine peace talks that will determine the course of European security. Unbelievable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/16/ukraine-europe-trump-russia-talks-meeting-macron-zelensky/

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malcomj.bsky.social•5 days ago

Stunning.

muttsylvania.bsky.social•5 days ago

But are these deal making talks between two criminals legitimate? Ukraine doesn’t accept them, why should NATO?

stevebotham.bsky.social•5 days ago

I’m sorry but you’re wrong. It is totally believable. If you follow Trump you know damn well he does what is best for Trump and that’s exactly what this is about. Rare earths? Arms sales?

ggegan.bsky.social•5 days ago

Europe must make the US irrelevant to its defense. Trump is a Russian mole looking for an opportunity to betray them.

thesetimesride.bsky.social•4 days ago

Hold your horses. The Saudi talks are not the treaty of Versailles.

ale996.bsky.social•5 days ago

Russia that is winning from military point of view but losing politically and economically, think to find a better deal with USA than with EU. Russia and Ucraina are the same people and both are european. They should both stop killing and both join EU.

mark-dingman.bsky.social•5 days ago

“…they are being excluded from Ukraine peace talks that will determine the course of European security. Unbelievable.”

No, entirely believable. In fact quite predictable.

I’ve not heard much dissent from senior US leaders about annexing Canada or conducting ethnic cleansing Gaza.

MAGA!

malcomj.bsky.social•5 days ago

Good point. The way he has talked about Canada and the rude way he has talked about Prime Minister Trudeau deserves rebuke or pushback. But, no....

ravenna321.bsky.social•5 days ago

Could Trump and Putin's master plan be a power grab like we've never seen? Putin wants all of Europe under his control and Trump wants North and South America under his? I hope not, sounds like a James Bond movie

ksozse.bsky.social•5 days ago

The EU should stand up with the rest for the sensible world and help Ukraine with or without the US. Let Trump and Putin make a deal, and just ignore it. We can do it if we wake up and make our politicians do it

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