There is this interesting paper in which training data was extracted from a diffusion model, so images were able to be reproduced with great detail. It's beyond my knowledge, but I think it's only reproducible if the images appear multiple times in the training data. arxiv.org/abs/2301.13188 - ThreadSky

alex.barcelona • 9 days ago

There is this interesting paper in which training data was extracted from a diffusion model, so images were able to be reproduced with great detail. It's beyond my knowledge, but I think it's only reproducible if the images appear multiple times in the training data. https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.13188

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360barking.bsky.social•8 days ago

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alex.barcelona•9 days ago

It's 100% undeniable that models *can* produce copyright infringements. What I cannot answer is how much it happens, how widespread it is, etc. I also hope that we can compensate the small authors about this. I also hope it's done right.

litbowl.bsky.social•8 days ago

Don't wanna go into too much detail publicly for various reasons. Basic gist though, with a very simple, not actively copyright-seeking, "Write part of a novel in the style of "X author" prompt, I have gotten full 200+-word verbatim segments of published novels. More often, I have gotten what would

litbowl.bsky.social•8 days ago

unquestionably qualify as plagiarism, even if not verbatim—essentially, a supposedly "original" piece of writing that uses the characters, setting, plotting, and phrasing/language from an author's book.

litbowl.bsky.social•8 days ago

I am much more interested in an absolute ruling that using copyrighted material for training models without explicit consent and compensation is illegal. The only just outcome would be the forced destruction of nearly every model out there right now. I don't care if that's "unrealistic".

litbowl.bsky.social•8 days ago

It's also "unrealistic" to expect every writer and artist in the world/in history to just take this lying down.

But yes in the meantime, somewhere in the hundreds of billions, if not trillions, in compensation would be appropriate.

litbowl.bsky.social•8 days ago

Re: the "close copy of book", that of course would seem to come from a combination of copying summaries and articles ABOUT books from the internet, mixed with fitting from the books themselves. That gets really into weeds of fair use of course--excerpt being used in criticism is fair use; sweeping

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