As an aside, I feel like a lot of liberals lean into “owning” & “destroyed” hyperbolically when what happened was a pithy one liner captured their thought for the moment and that’s why we have loads of folks convinced that we posted through this last time, same again…and that’s not the case.
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It's all rhetorical, a debate club.
A lot of, "we lived through Trump I", and like, millions didn't and millions more won't, why don't those people matter here? (let alone the millions more suffering short of death, immediate or protracted).