OK, coal fired power stations, what about renewables? I'm happy for household solar cells, but it is a private initiative. While you can pull less power from the grid, it harder to feed more of that power back. And houses take up 30% of our energy consumption, you can only do so much. 6/13 - ThreadSky

johnasydney.bsky.social • 73 days ago

OK, coal fired power stations, what about renewables? I'm happy for household solar cells, but it is a private initiative. While you can pull less power from the grid, it harder to feed more of that power back. And houses take up 30% of our energy consumption, you can only do so much. 6/13

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tasmaniacturtle.bsky.social•73 days ago

Four million households have solar panels. That's quite a private initiative.
It's also more electricity generation than the entire coalition "plan"

johnasydney.bsky.social•73 days ago

Yes, let's try to make power users more flexible - aluminium extraction electrolytic cells with better "idle" states - but limiting the power use in hospitals and other places is a bit silly - you can only go so far. 7/13

tasmaniacturtle.bsky.social•73 days ago

Nobody has proposed that

johnasydney.bsky.social•73 days ago

Cranking out distributed solar & wind with a matching 24 hour grid is a gargantuan task, like a space or atomic bomb program. Mines soak up all the tradies in local towns - think about this on a capital city wide scale. Ramping up will be challenging, in terms of the diversions in the economy. 8/13

johnasydney.bsky.social•73 days ago

Nuclear compares well, in terms what you need to put in for the result. We could try to import foreign workers - really we should subtract the cost of training from our foreign aid budget, but in any case, rather than exporting carbon, we'd then be exporting economic chaos. 9/13

tasmaniacturtle.bsky.social•73 days ago

Foreign aid is bad?

johnasydney.bsky.social•73 days ago

Sure, in the context of ebb & flow of the market, let people move around the globe - but we're not talking about that here. And we're heading for a copper shortage. Lots of things are about to get harder. 10/13

tasmaniacturtle.bsky.social•73 days ago

A copper mine is sitting idle one hour from where I live.

johnasydney.bsky.social•73 days ago

For sure, nuclear would not make a change to prices anytime soon, and talk of "baseload" misses the point. We'd do nuclear because it is a good thing to do, not for other reasons. Those reasons are not Dutton's reasons. He's selling snake oil, not a plan. 11/13

johnasydney.bsky.social•73 days ago

Yes, it would need good planning. The best time to have gotten started was 20 years ago. The next best time is now - to at least lift the ban on nuclear power, and set up structures so that if nuclear is good, at least there are no obstacles to it reaching its potential. 12/13

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