on a purely mechanical level, the US murdering its own economy for sport is going to have serious consequences globally, you're not going to be able to hide away from that. and that's not even accounting for the US flexing its long-arm jurisdiction across so many domains - ThreadSky

sky.skymarchini.net • 5 days ago

on a purely mechanical level, the US murdering its own economy for sport is going to have serious consequences globally, you're not going to be able to hide away from that. and that's not even accounting for the US flexing its long-arm jurisdiction across so many domains

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abcbtommi.bsky.social•5 days ago

I moved out of the US two years ago because in my entire adult political life American voters have never done the right thing, and can confirm this. From abroad I don't feel any more at ease, really.

huckelcommasean.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yea, my wife has made noise about leaving, and I'd obviously do it if she put her foot down, but people are really being naive if the US goes mega fasc that it won't fuck up the life of nearly everyone on the planet

sky.skymarchini.net•5 days ago

and i've commented about this privately but i ***really*** do not love the way that many of the people (who, if you can leave now, are pretty privileged!) are framing their choice. it's usually along the lines of "don't say we didn't warn you! get out while you still can!!"

like, dawg, I can't.

amethystjoy.bsky.social•5 days ago

A big trans account on here being like " it's over, get out now" all the comments being like " I'm trans, I have no money and no passport" and the response being essentially " It's time to become a refugee". Because things are going so swimmingly globally for queers and refugees right now!

silsmile.bsky.social•5 days ago

Preach. Those Yale profs doing a big self-congratulatory PR push about them getting cushy jobs in Toronto was genuinely one of the grossest things I"ve seen this era (a high bar!)

cmhoskins.bsky.social•5 days ago

That's a not true. They are taking jobs because of the subjects they teach and the restrictions and threats that will surely be coming for them in the US. They are also taking pay cuts in the 10s of thousands of dollars to come here. They aren't automatically citizens of Canada btw. Unfair critique.

jewishwonk.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yeah, even if I wanted to go to Canada, the Canadians wouldn't take me in. True for most places on this planet.

sky.skymarchini.net•5 days ago

and I also don't think that i'm somehow *wrong* for thinking that this is my home and damn it I'm going to actually fight for this place instead of pulling a "Whelp, america's cooked. good luck if you stay behind. lets see what kinda property I can get in Sicily! I'll be totally safe there."

robinpensnonsense.bsky.social•5 days ago

I agree with you on all points. Canada is facing its own issues, and I'll be damned if I sit back and watch it happen. This is my home, and I will fight for it.

I also do not have the privilege to leave, but even if I did, I could not imagine abandoning my fellow citizens.

silsmile.bsky.social•5 days ago

Same. Prosecuted groups leaving, I totally get, but the simple truth is that the only thing that can stop and hopefully fix America is...us Americans.

kvoxsky.bsky.social•5 days ago

There is no fight to put up. We lost.

olenargy.bsky.social•5 days ago

Same group that constantly says they’re gonna move to Canada

robinpensnonsense.bsky.social•5 days ago

I am Canadian and just commented above regarding my thoughts on this. Please don't come to Canada. If the US fails, Canada won't be where you want to be either. Saving yourselves saves people all over the world. Stay there and fix it. (Not you specifically, I mean all Americans.)

sciencehippies.bsky.social•5 days ago

I’m too poor and useless to be a desirable immigrant to other nations, besides, it is the whitest thing imaginable to just peace out whenever your immediate vicinity is too challenging and hostile.

migas1.bsky.social•5 days ago

Actually I think Europe welcoming immigrants from USA and elsewhere will make it the world more multipolar and a step towards one world government.

photodave219.fightins.online•5 days ago

Moving *ANYWHERE* takes resources and a level of privilege.

First? Resources to MOVE.
Second? A place to move TO.
Third? Employment at the new place.

isaiahbishop.bsky.social•5 days ago

Not to mention ofc the fash leaks via media. Like every major tech company is american, and they control most media. its going to try and spread even if it makes no sense

ajaxsinger.bsky.social•5 days ago

One of the early moves DOGE made at SSA was to make it harder for expats to get their social security. I have to imagine that it wasn't a random happening and was a jumped-the-gun attempt at a larger agenda aimed at making expats miserable.

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