There is a difference between chasing Nazis out of your local bar, vs demanding your bar shutter because Nazis stepped into it. The former is legitimate political strategy. The latter is dumb purity politics. 1/ - ThreadSky

zedecksiew.bsky.social • 165 days ago

There is a difference between chasing Nazis out of your local bar, vs demanding your bar shutter because Nazis stepped into it.

The former is legitimate political strategy.

The latter is dumb purity politics.

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rentsyj.bsky.social•165 days ago

Also can any one in any way subtatiate the "Nazi" accusation, or is that too high a bar to clear?

rentsyj.bsky.social•165 days ago

Pretend I am a normie who found Cairn 2e backgrounds two months ago and thought they were cool.

With that context, what the fuck is wrong with you sickos?

sfxprb.bsky.social•165 days ago

It's a reference to this but of internet lore

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Nazi_bar

I know that no one is accusing Yochai of being a Nazi. I don't think anyone is seriously accusing Milton of being a "Nazi", but in the analogy, he is the bartender that doesn't kick the Nazi out of the bar.

rentsyj.bsky.social•165 days ago

You fucking retard

sfxprb.bsky.social•165 days ago

Reported.

rentsyj.bsky.social•165 days ago

in your twisted mind, "internet lore" is a reason to bully Jewish people off the internet for imagined crimes of assosciation.

sfxprb.bsky.social•165 days ago

Also, your communication style is incredibly abrasive. If you want people to assume you're here in good faith you really need to tone it the fuck down.

rentsyj.bsky.social•165 days ago

I'm abrasive because I'm convinced that I'm seeing antisemitism in action, under the pastry thin guide of "anti nazi" action.

Basically, you're both manipulated, and a coward, and either too stupid or too evil to do the right thing

sfxprb.bsky.social•165 days ago

Except the people you're responding to support Yochai, the Jewish creator you're "defending". And you aren't asking questions about a situation you don't seem to understand, you're just starting Internet fights.

sfxprb.bsky.social•165 days ago

I say this as one of @chrispwolf.bsky.social's "5 glue sniffing friends". Like, if you need more context to understand what we're talking about, just ask, without being a jaggoff.

rentsyj.bsky.social•165 days ago

rentsyj.bsky.social•165 days ago

Nazis wanted to put bullets in the heads of Jewish people

They didn't "vote for Trump"

You're lost in broken categories, and using it as an excuse to indulge in antisemetism

plainoldchair.bsky.social•165 days ago

This feels like a false dichotomy. There is also, for instance, "some nazis stepped into the bar, overtake conversation with nazism on a daily basis, and the owner doesn't give a damn", which I feel like you may be lumping into your latter example

vespercene.bsky.social•165 days ago

no, that's a situation wherein chasing out the nazis is appropriate, but that wasn't applicable to the situation at hand

zedecksiew.bsky.social•165 days ago

Which do you practice? Can you tell the difference?

This is in itself a big tell.

Practicing purity over strategy is one of the *clearest* indicators that you are yourself (a) not actually marginalised; or (b) have bought yourself a dram of power and want to wield it for self-interest.

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zedecksiew.bsky.social•165 days ago

Or you have been duped into following somebody who is using the cloak of marginality to manipulate you.

You kick Nazis out because it is *your* bar.

You demand the bar shut down because you have your own bar, and *you wanna take down competitors*.

3/3

wanderwyrm.bsky.social•165 days ago

(1/2) Do you have a specific example? Because honestly I think we could stand to be a little more zealous about chasing off fascists. A spade is a spade, and it ain't purity politics to wanna eliminate spaces where fascists feel comfortable being out in the open.

jackedward.bsky.social•165 days ago

The guy we’re talking about is a significant organizer in this space, is a visible Jewish creator… like, who the fuck are we talking about here?

Saying “we need to chase off fascists” is a great way to sound unimpeachable while legitimizing the worst behavior possible.

wanderwyrm.bsky.social•165 days ago

So what I'm gathering is this is specifically about someone called Yochai Gal? If you could fill me in that would be appreciated, I'm missing context here. I still stand by my sentiment, but it goes without saying I'm talking about fascists, not harassing someone for a foot-in-mouth moment or smth

indentyourcode.itch.io•165 days ago

Better yet, here's a follow up post that Yochai made on his blog. It details the whole situation way better and way more thoroughly, anyone on Bluesky can.

https://newschoolrevolution.com/blue-skies-ahead/

indentyourcode.itch.io•165 days ago

A month ago, a reviewer on YouTube accepted paid sponsorship by an alt right publishing house.

There was backlash. He apologized, said he didn't look into them, withdrew the sponsorship, etc. Do with that what you will.

wanderwyrm.bsky.social•165 days ago

(2/2) The other issue is people with thin skins confusing any sort of critique on their politics or worldview as an attack. Honestly the amount of people who get up in arms over completely irrelevant stuff do more to obfuscate actual bad actors in the community than any other factor.

rivetgeek.aggregatecognizance.com•165 days ago

None of this has anything to do with what Yochai is talking about.

rivetgeek.aggregatecognizance.com•165 days ago

* Zedeck, not Yochai, who is who Zedeck is talking about.

koooooooogs.bsky.social•165 days ago

yeah it was pretty clear "nazis fuck off"

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