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kudelka.bsky.social • 52 days ago

Shot, chaser. What a bunch of clowns. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-03/tas-stadium-scathing-independent-gruen-review/104780914

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pigeonupdates.bsky.social•52 days ago

My biggest concern is not the stadium it's that Hobart has like 3 buses and the idea that 25,000 people will just be able to go to the stadium and then all leave at once is farcical

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

It’s really hard to be specific about which dealbreaker is the worst. The funniest part is that apparently the current AFL stadium that actually hosts AFL games just across the bridge is really hard to park at.

pigeonupdates.bsky.social•50 days ago

Not surprising. Tbh if Hobart had functional public transport. Thinking like Wellington, then the stadium isn't necessarily the worst idea

kudelka.bsky.social•50 days ago

You are of course entitled to your catastrophically incorrect opinion.

pigeonupdates.bsky.social•50 days ago

I shouldn't skeet late at night. Point taken.

kudelka.bsky.social•50 days ago

Nobody should

kudelka.bsky.social•50 days ago

If they spent all the money on public transport that would be perfectly fine. If they spent 80% on public transport and the rest doing up the stadium across the river that is currently hosting AFL matches that too would be fine.

kudelka.bsky.social•50 days ago

Or they could just spend less than 10% of the budget on a soccer stadium which we don’t have too many of, secure an A League licence, quietly mention that the AFL might want to stop taking the entire state for granted and watch what happens.

frasersmum.bsky.social•51 days ago

Ive wondered where people will park. Or stay.
Ive tried to get accommodation during a big event in Hobart (for a medical appt) and it was hard finding somewhere to stay that I could afford to stay at!

msmisrule.bsky.social•52 days ago

Meanwhile, public school won’t employ teacher librarians (because they cost too much) while the state enjoys the worst literacy rates in the country.

curator-oxalis.bsky.social•52 days ago

Family member worked in a Tas public school library. Libs gutted resources. Art classes gone. Music classes also gone. Shameful.

paulwallbank.bsky.social•52 days ago

And yet Tasmanians keep voting for these people

brionykidd.bsky.social•52 days ago

In fairness, we voted for more *other* people and it’s a pity they couldn’t have played nice together.

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

Stop ruining it for Paul.

paulwallbank.bsky.social•51 days ago

You keep ending up with these awful governments though.

kudelka.bsky.social•51 days ago

Thanks for noticing

paulwallbank.bsky.social•51 days ago

It's my job. :)

hizsoltee.bsky.social•52 days ago

Is this what the end of civilization looks like? Enormous amounts of public money lavished on crap sporting entertainment while real problems go unaddressed? (Those were rhetorical questions).

billdavies.bsky.social•52 days ago

It worked for the Romans.

stickman1971.bsky.social•52 days ago

Stolen from Utopia

spacekat9.bsky.social•52 days ago

The bar for competancy in government is subterranean

rickhm.bsky.social•52 days ago

This is why we can't have nice things.

cowswithguns.bsky.social•52 days ago

With an attitude like that I'm surprised they haven't done the cable car.

belverdear.bsky.social•52 days ago

Don't speak to soon, mind you, I did read the other day that Abetz would like one at Cradle Mountain.🤦‍♀️

mirandamaybe.bsky.social•52 days ago

donegan.bsky.social•52 days ago

How on earth were they reelected?

brionykidd.bsky.social•52 days ago

They barely were. Labor could have tried to align with the minor parties/independents to form government but couldn’t be bothered.

curiouschristine75.bsky.social•51 days ago

Huge donations from businesses on the mainland that will make money from the Libs winning, plus years of a low standard of education in Tasmania.

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

Perhaps the voters decided it wasn’t the ALP’s turn to mismanage the place yet.

dbranch9.bsky.social•52 days ago

From what I recall, the ALP didn’t want it anyway.

duckmcscrooge.bsky.social•52 days ago

I guess we've moved on from "don't seek advice or commission an inquiry without first knowing the outcome" to "doesn't matter, just do as you want. It'll be swept away in the news cycle"
Worked for Trump enough unfortunately

trudes.bsky.social•52 days ago

They’ve had a roadmap from the Ashley Detention Centre inquiry. And the Gaming Industry inquiry. Oh and the electoral reform inquiry.

I mean there’s definitely not a pattern there.

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

If there is a pattern, you can guarantee nobody in the government is going to spot it.

trudes.bsky.social•52 days ago

I’ve got money on they wake up most days having no idea what portfolio they actually front. Rearranging the deck chairs is an understatement.

annbag.bsky.social•52 days ago

*Dickheads

minnie-bannister.bsky.social•52 days ago

AFL in Tasmania is a religious cult. 1 billion for an oval instead of hospitals, schools, fire fighters etc. Labor gutless and desperate to be in government also wants it. AND it keeps sucking money even after its built.

proleartthreat.bsky.social•52 days ago

I want a nuke there…with it…I reckon the people will want it too….free power, easy access to water….its the magic pudding

mssquiggs65.bsky.social•52 days ago

Thick as bricks

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

That is the second government commissioned report that has said it’s a terrible idea. Anyone with half a brain could have worked this out simply by looking at it.

mssquiggs65.bsky.social•52 days ago

No smarts whatsoever then and run a state into the ground just because

nick-higgins.bsky.social•52 days ago

But the political division assists their return to power.
Tasmanians are so foolish with their votes.

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

Thank you for your ineffable wisdom and political analysis, Nick.

trudes.bsky.social•52 days ago

They (my electorate even!!) literally voted Abetz in. I mean that leaves me goddam speechless.

mssquiggs65.bsky.social•52 days ago

Gawd how awful

nick-higgins.bsky.social•52 days ago

That was astonishing.
I really didn’t think he had a chance.
Just goes to show.

terra155.bsky.social•52 days ago

You are generous with half, simply put, it is idiotic 😫

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

My expectations are low.

voxexsinister.bsky.social•52 days ago

This is what it looks like when you let marketing dipshits run your state. Like Sydney.

jenniferphilp.bsky.social•52 days ago

Never saw this coming, said no one. Ever

billdavies.bsky.social•52 days ago

Well if the Feds can get away with AUKUS it seems like everyone is after a similar trophy.

kages44.bsky.social•52 days ago

For stadium, so people can play football

Gee, I’m glad we don’t have any homelessness in Australia

Or poverty

Or public schools that are chronically underfunded

Or massive backlogs in hospitals

But we will have a nice shiny bright new football stadium

What a waste 🏟️

tactwo.bsky.social•51 days ago

Sports events do bring in money to spend on addressing those issues too though... if that's how they choose to spend it.

kudelka.bsky.social•51 days ago

Two government commissioned studies have in fact quite clearly stated the opposite. If you wish to dispute this then I wish you well.

tactwo.bsky.social•51 days ago

I haven't researched it.

But it would make sense that ticket sales would bring in cash, accomodation, food, services and wages. All taxed and added to the coffers.

It doesn't make sense that the opposite happens. Money is drained?

kudelka.bsky.social•51 days ago

You clearly haven’t researched it, so acknowledging that is a good start. I would recommend remedying the situation before speaking further on the topic. If you wish to save yourself a lot of time you could simply read the latest report by a person who has in fact researched the topic.

tactwo.bsky.social•51 days ago

Nono it's not necessary I figured it out. You're talking about this specific stadium and I'm just talking about event earning potential.

I'm not putting the conversation in your thread in the correct context so I withdraw from any debate on the specifics.

surlydave.bsky.social•51 days ago

The stadium will return a grand total of 46 cents in economic return for every dollar spent on it. It will mean less money in the coffers.

tactwo.bsky.social•51 days ago

I wasn't talking about the potential earnings versus the potential costs of this stadium over a period of time I mean generally - events bring money that the government can spend on things.

Maybe not this decade...

kages44.bsky.social•50 days ago

There is a reason private investors DON’T build stadiums

They don’t make money

Donations are made to political parties and governments build them so THOSE private investors make huge profits…

and they don’t spend it on anything BUT THEMSELVES

tactwo.bsky.social•50 days ago

Sure the rich aren't generous that's true. But for an event everyone who attends pays money to get there, buy things there (including tickets) maybe stay a couple days then go back home is all taxed. All over town.

As well as whatever deals the rich people are doing (if they comply with the system)

my2centsworth.bsky.social•52 days ago

With all the hidden costs & devious BS surrounding this stadium, Tassie Labor should not be supporting it. I'll bet quids they do though. Politics in this country is broken. It needs reform & a public interest test applied to all brain fart ideas particularly when they're robbing other areas of need

miket4.bsky.social•49 days ago

You can bet all sides will support it. It involves the Holly of Holies …. Bloody sport! When it comes to govt decisions, sport will always win, even over hospitals and schools.

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

They are supporting it.

my2centsworth.bsky.social•52 days ago

Why am I not surprised? FFS, the money they're wasting belongs to the people. Their only role is to manage it efficiently & yet, they build monuments to fiscal irresponsibility, line the pockets of parasites, while vital services are short sheeted. Politics needs drastic reform. It's one big scam

monkeybrennan.bsky.social•51 days ago

Yeah, but a lot of donor mates are going to get fat contracts now

granit3.bsky.social•52 days ago

The place is littered with their fiascos. Littered, I say.

stimpysimpson.bsky.social•51 days ago

Once the stadium is operational watch the government of the day pay a promoter "cough-live nation-cough" a few mil to put a date on a tour - didn't WA do this just recently with Coldplay?

jayjaybee52.bsky.social•50 days ago

$1b for a 23k seater?...someone's taking the p!ss...

2fbs.bsky.social•52 days ago

I'm not real good at maths but by my calculations every Tasmanian would need to attend 30 events at a ticket cost of $60 per event to recoup that money

smurfingbeer.bsky.social•52 days ago

And that's just the upfront cost. Still need to run the venue, so it's completely nuts.

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

Also massive opportunity cost to complete the set.

juliebishopspants.bsky.social•52 days ago

Is that based on a per head or per person calculation?

2fbs.bsky.social•52 days ago

ISWYDT

juliebishopspants.bsky.social•52 days ago

Family tickets would be financially disastrous.

smurfingbeer.bsky.social•52 days ago

Next gov policy - dip into your super for tickets

juliebishopspants.bsky.social•52 days ago

Followed by some SECS.

stadium entry contribution scheme

kudelka.bsky.social•52 days ago

Never stops being funny.

atypicalhippy.bsky.social•51 days ago

There's absolutely no business case based on Tasmanians using the stadium.

It's predicated on people who are not Tasmanians buying tickets, and generating tourism revenue more broadly. I doubt that makes sense either, but it's a different question.

2fbs.bsky.social•50 days ago

I did not say there was. I was merely putting the cost in some type of context.

atypicalhippy.bsky.social•50 days ago

That certainly has value, though the ticket price would need to include $60 worth of profit over the event costs, not just a face value of $60, so it's even worse than you say.

kudelka.bsky.social•50 days ago

It’s safe to say that we have 100% established the stadium’s comprehensive lack of financial viability at this stage.

jenniferphilp.bsky.social•50 days ago

That just guarantees it'll go ahead. It'll be 5× the original cost and will be ready for season 2035

dianne2rdr.bsky.social•52 days ago

Maybe they can leave the gates open so the homeless have somewhere to go.
If only they’d spend this amount of money on your health system or the housing issues

belverdear.bsky.social•52 days ago

If the use benches instead of seats, maybe they could place a few hospital patients there too.

belverdear.bsky.social•51 days ago

*they*

granit3.bsky.social•52 days ago

Why were there no ferries running to Bellerive for the cricket the other afternoon?
Oh! I get it!
Because that makes it too Haaaaaard to get there, Macquarie wharf will be MUCH better .... Not.

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