The way we set pay is not commensurate with the real value we get. Put this another way we place to much value on some types of work and not enough on others. Garbage collector, teacher, fireman, construction worker, food service, hotel staff all underpaid and critical to society and poorly paid.
So crazy. I’ve been on all sides of the hiring process and it’s the lamest set up ever… “tell me about your greatest weakness…” Girrrlll, why would I do that?!?! lol
Considering that Elon is the CEO of four different companies and that he spends all his time in Washington now. That makes me conclude that CEOs really don't do much of anything.
I understand your point, but "introductory pricing" is a thing that cable, phone, magazines, cars, and basically everything has used at one point or another.
In Sweden we have "long lasting pricing" for people not changing phone every other year...! I will have fixed price for another 100 years...!
What a deal!
Yes. Think back to COVID lockdown. Who were the 'essential' workers that were required to be at work to maintain our entire infrastructure? Was it billionaires? No. Oh. Maybe millionaires? No. CEOs or CFOs? No. No, it was the people all those people consider useless leeches. Unskilled. Pathetic.
Agree. Reminds me of a convo wherein I was waiting for back-pay. I was assured it would be retroactive (said to me as though it was a bonus), and I replied, “Too bad my rent isn’t retroactive.” They stopped smiling.
"yeah but I worked harder and should make more than people making minimum wage!"
Sure dog, but the folks making minimum wage deserve to be able to live comfortably too. Be fucking for real, how many 15 year old convenience store workers have you seen? Zero? They're all at least 20-something? Huh.
In my industry, a fresh college graduate will never be as productive as a person with 3 years of practical experience. You don't have to be a recruiter to know this - you just need to have some real working experience.
Disagree. Fresh college graduates can be more productive than they're experienced counterparts. They're just less experienced because every industry has a learning curve. It's still zero excuse to underpay people just by deceitfully relabeling their starting position.
I dont disagree. Grads have a fresh outlook. Modernized ideas. Definitely alot more energy lol issue is them not knowing how to execute on those solutions, what processes to leverages and how to gain support from stakeholders. All teachable but exp folks already know this stuff.
Entry level = you're qualified, but I'm going to label it "entry" so I can pay you pennies. Barely a step up from unpaid internships, which should be illegal. Interns contribute their time/education to work for you while continuing to learn new skills; they have earned a right to be paid.
Apprentice starting a trade in construction, high school drop out, barely has a pulse. Still starts at 50% of the journey person rate. If you have put in the effort to educate and train yourself, you deserve a decent wage.
Fully agree. Much of capitalism is built on a complete lack of respect of a person's contributions (time & qualifications). It's dehumanizing and unsustainable long term.
Other systems where everyone makes the same has led to poor quality products and a disincentive to innovation. Pay folks a wage where they can get ahead, yet not overpay the CEO.
The US economy [briefly] functioned on that principle. People were paid a living wage and CEOs didn't exploit them/make billions off of their backs. We started losing that around the 80s/90s. If US doesn't course correct, we will become a completely failed state. Poverty is a legislative choice.
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When my ex husband started corrections with the state of Illinois, he didn’t get paid until he was finished at the academy. It was about 8 weeks without a check.
I have a masters, 20+ years of experience, worked at the Executive level, and have managed employees in a territory that covers most of SoCal.
I've only held one job that paid more than 21 dollars an hour. This is not unusual for trans people who are perpetually stuck at entry level or in nonprofit
Call me crazy, but I'm of the mind that if you work a full-time job, you deserve to make enough to pay your bills, feed your family and do more than just barely survive.
I mean I'm okay with the idea of entry level pay as long as it can cover the cost of living and savings. As you get more experienced and are able to take on more difficult tasks that require more knowledge it makes sense to get paid more
I had entry level bills. In college I lived with nine people in a two bed apt. Out of college I lived in a dumpster apartment with no furniture. I had one plate and ate sitting on the floor. Today I own a $1.5M home. That’s how capitalism works, try it.
there shouldn't be taxes if you earnnless than the median income, and rich people and wealthy cpeporations paying slightly more could easily make up for it plus some. it would fix to our budget issues, too!
Okay, and? This is about a more accommodating and reasonable bottom. Are you still at the bottom with all your experience and education? If so, you should agree with the message. If not, this literally isn't about you.
I disagree. If I have experience with a skill that others don’t and because of this my product is desired, more effective, or superior to those who are inexperienced or uneducated, I set my value. You are talking about products, not people.
My point is the market saw those skills as either useless or incorporated in such a way that you cannot make a living under an employer or on your own. Like I said the market will decide your utility and its only a matter of time.
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What a deal!
Sure dog, but the folks making minimum wage deserve to be able to live comfortably too. Be fucking for real, how many 15 year old convenience store workers have you seen? Zero? They're all at least 20-something? Huh.
"Entry level" workers are not fuckin' subhumans, but you are if you think that way.
No Sir, a 4 year degree is equal to 3 years of practical experience.
There is no such thing as an "entry-level" graduate.
One of the problems with recent grads is arrogance which leads to mistakes. I was there once.
And no I'm not a recruiter.
I've only held one job that paid more than 21 dollars an hour. This is not unusual for trans people who are perpetually stuck at entry level or in nonprofit
There are many points in the organisational hierarchy where workers can enter.
No matter what job you work.
Oh also pretty much all jobs pay minimum wage so... I guess 'entry level' is just a buzzword here.
Makes it fun job hunting (I wish I was dead)
This person is genius.