No one seems willing to think about how getting nuclear weapons creates a pretext for attack against those weapons. If UKR had kept its nukes - aimed mostly at us, btw - the Russians would have attacked them many years ago.
Iran has played this game of "almost, but not quite" very cleverly.
Iran has played this game of "almost, but not quite" very cleverly.
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And, is that not the true value of giving "everyone" nukes?
Like the very wise Genie said "phenomenal cosmic powers ... itty-bitty living space"!
didn't want to be a target. and based on alliances at the time of an actual launch, all nukes are a countermeasure target
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Tuzla_Island_conflict.
Any nation under such threat will consider its options, and if nuclearization is technically possible, then the threat certainly increase the odds it'll happen.
NATO crush Russia, North Korea at any time? Can even do it this week.
Once a country has nukes the game changes and the very well established Cold War rules apply.
Their current relation seems to have stabilized into a Cold War now that both sides can deliver.
Both India and Pakistan have had operable nuclear weapons stockpiles since the 1980s.
A weird aspect of their face-off is that they pretty much maintain stockpiles in direct numerical equivalence, with 0 deployed.
Hooray! The planet has become more safe by becoming infinitely more dangerous.
The conflict was in 1969
The soviets were considering using nuclear weapons but thought better of it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict
There was a KGB guy who wrote a memoir suggesting that they did in fact detonate a tactical nuke over a PLA garrison in response to the PLA harassing withdrawing Soviet troops.
US Geo Survey may have confirmation of a seismic event around the same time.
No one has confirmed this.
The real question that never seems to be getting asked of foreign policy experts is, why can’t NATO defeat any of our weak and evil enemies? What’s going on?
Is it not mere speculation that a UKR with nukes would also be attacked? Put aside IRBMs etc. The prospect of a UKR suitcase nuke exploded in Moscow or St Petes may prove to be a strong deterrent.
With Russian military bases, including the ones with nukes, still functioning on the territories of Ukraine and Belarus, both would have rejoined Russia "peacefully", give or take a dozen or two of opposition.
Attacks on places like Natanz and other Iranian facilities are aimed at preventing them from *obtaining* nukes in 1st place. Ukraine's already existed: a completely different calculus for attack. Admittedly, how much they could be used apart from RUS C2 systems was an open question.
Why is there no real plan here?
What are our experts in this field doing?
Iran has the largest standing military in the Middle East, with a significant number of active and reserve personnel.
Iran's missile program is considered the largest and most diverse in the Middle East, with a substantial arsenal of ballistic and cruise missiles
If defeating Iran is not easy, then we have completely failed in the field of foreign policy. Everyone needs to be fired. Actual experts need to be hired.
*That* is what we need to be addressing, not nukes.
2. I couldn’t build a clock much less a nuke.
3. Three??? So demanding.
Nobody has attacked NKorea, Pakistan, India, SAfrica, or Israel.
The list of countries that did get attacked is all countries that don’t have nukes.
Sweden, Germany, Japan, Saudi, Ukraine, and others see the US abdication.
They will become porcupines.
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India, Pakistan, China, and NK pre- and post- nukes(?) had military encounters without using nukes because in every case it would have been like nuking themselves.
Like, Ukraine took Russian territory for lols and trolling. The RF still didn't use nuclear weapons.
You are changing it to military encounters after my response.
Other than Iran’s pathetic attempts nobody has targeted nukes.
I stand by my statement.
You are wrong.
What's the point?
Like Israel, to show your (small) dick?
No. If the bases stayed in Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, their independence would have been targeted back in 1990s.
Read it slowly again and again until you understand it was talking about the nukes themselves being targeted.
Reading is fundamental.
Neither does your post have any "attacking the nukes" wording.
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