Labour have thrown trans people under a bus, this time decisively. Why? Because of Nigel Farage's Reform UK. And this explains the triumph of transphobia in certain countries: it's a byproduct of the rise of right-wing radicalism. www.theguardian.com/society/2025... - ThreadSky

owenjones.bsky.social • 12 days ago

Labour have thrown trans people under a bus, this time decisively.

Why? Because of Nigel Farage's Reform UK.

And this explains the triumph of transphobia in certain countries: it's a byproduct of the rise of right-wing radicalism.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/feb/10/labour-shelves-plans-easier-people-legally-change-gender

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roc83.bsky.social•12 days ago

The moment that transphobia was normalised in the mainstream media as a feminist position, it was inevitable that Starmer’s Labour would eventually capitulate on trans rights. There is no vulnerable group that they won’t throw under the bus to appease the Tories who voted for them last year.

jellyshot.bsky.social•12 days ago

Yep, they are going after the trans people in Australia too, pushed by the right.

tpbholm.bsky.social•12 days ago

I had such hope when this government was elected. But now… I feel depressed and let down.

nyebev4eva.bsky.social•11 days ago

Centrism is status-quoism. It has no principles and no red lines. It has no solidarity. It punches down when it should punch up.

bcncelt.bsky.social•11 days ago

https://forward.com/culture/549587/trans-book-burning-library-gay-pride/

gruffthedog.bsky.social•12 days ago

It's time to accept that centrists constantly following the far right is not a coincidence, and it's evidently not politically expedient. It's because they share their views.

psychaedulcisanima.bsky.social•12 days ago

But the logic is backwards. The rise of reform UK is the best reason to do the right thing now, while it’s still possible.

inthespotlight755.bsky.social•12 days ago

Labour, stop fucking around or you will be fucked at the next elections!

inthespotlight755.bsky.social•12 days ago

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•10 days ago

https://screedvault.neocities.org/post/20240209_times_labour_abandons_grr/

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•12 days ago

"Ah yet, we cannot be kind to each other here for an hour;
We whisper, and hint, and chuckle, and grin at a brother's shame;
However we brave it out, we men are a little breed."

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•12 days ago

TBH somebody is trying to make hay out of a decision that was almost certainly made well before the election.

lucretiarage.bsky.social•9 days ago

This was literally their only proposed policy prior to the election that would have been beneficial to trans people in any sense, and it was regularly used by their candidates as a way to claim they were actually helping us.

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•9 days ago

It was little different to the perfunctory tinkering around the edges "steamlining" that Liz Truss proposed after she had blocked "self-ID." It was obvious from that what the direction of travel was.

cupcakecultist.bsky.social•12 days ago

🌈💜 FFS UK! Don't follow the US's ignorant, hateful & fascist example! Run screaming in the Opposite direction! 🍉✌️

jigglybitch.bsky.social•12 days ago

I think the "why?" is actually "because they're nazis" actually. This isn't something they NEED to do for votes. They'd get a lot more votes by being progressive. Don't make excuses for nazis.

mathewforesta.bsky.social•12 days ago

It's also a byproduct of a media ecosystem that normalized transphobia and white, 2nd wave terfs who sold hatred as a women's rights issue.

owenjones.bsky.social•12 days ago

Things have gone gruesomely backwards for trans people.

It should be noted that public attitudes to homosexuality also sharply reversed in the 1980s, which Thatcher weaponised with Section 28.

Note this from younger Britons, though.

And note the gender divide.

cobieef.bsky.social•12 days ago

Owen, there are people on here claiming that they were not sent the poll by YouGov, and similar polls in the past, because they regularly skew progressive and left and pro-trans. There is also some serious questions to be raised about bias given Sex Matters involvement. It's untrustworthy.

cobieef.bsky.social•12 days ago

Also, Labour are repugnant. The left and centre need to quickly coalesce around another party and kick them, Reform and the Tories to the curb.

thucidydes.bsky.social•12 days ago

To paraphrase Catwoman from Batman Returns, allow me to refute you:

"How could you, we transphobes are all WOMEN!?!?!?"

(sees graph)

This is awkward.

erikasgarden.bsky.social•12 days ago

Its always the way though. Men are always less in favour of trans women in women's spaces than women are.

In a sane society we wouldn't even ask men, what does their opinion on this have to do with anything?

inthespotlight755.bsky.social•12 days ago

erikasgarden.bsky.social•12 days ago

Who said I was a Reform voter?

Did I say that?

I can't stand Reform. Those aren't the two choices

inthespotlight755.bsky.social•12 days ago

This sign was saying earlier Tory on it and I changed to Labour, because that is what will happen to Labour at the next elections if they continue to fuck around and play into the hands of the fascists. That is the meaning of it.

erikasgarden.bsky.social•12 days ago

I see. I am a former Labour voter and I've had Labour voters refer to me as a Reform voter by default so I assumed.

My bad, I apologise for jumping to conclusions

inthespotlight755.bsky.social•12 days ago

Who said you are?

erikasgarden.bsky.social•12 days ago

Is this not the purpose of the post above this?

odontopian.bsky.social•12 days ago

I know this polling is comparatively good, but it is still kind of disappointing that almost 30% of Gen Z are opposed to a basic right for trans people

erikasgarden.bsky.social•12 days ago

Another thing to remember, this was conducted by The Times, a Conservative paper. So these results are actually biased to the right, the actual number of people who oppose this is likely lower.

theuntamedshrew.bsky.social•12 days ago

Things that should ACTUALLY concern you:
Oh God there's no paper
Where is the soap?!
Why are there no paper towels?
Definitely not using that toilet stall
Embarrassing poop noises

skakried.bsky.social•12 days ago

let's not forget the all important "Fuck!, I dropped my Lipstick" xD

prumarth.bsky.social•12 days ago

How about concerns like:
Oh God there is a male in this bathroom, we are alone & statistically males are responsible for 98% of all sex crimes & women the largest victim group. And a woman dies at the hands of a man every 3 days. Is that concern ok?

skakried.bsky.social•12 days ago

Love how it appears that men are more opposed than women. Since I came out I have had nothing but support from my AFAB friends. It's the men that always seem to have the problem.

chris-hearn.bsky.social•12 days ago

Why would men have a say in this? Are they interested in using the women's room?

sophie-black.bsky.social•11 days ago

Ask it this way

“Should women be required to present an id card, show their genitals, or take a chromosome test before going to the loo?” and nearly 100% will say “No”.

Those in favour of exclusion are shallow people who haven’t thought it through, or *really* nasty people who have. Mostly men.

wonkish.bsky.social•12 days ago

I've long really wanted to see polling on what percentage of the British public knows that trans people have had the explicit legal right to use toilets and other gendered facilities that match their gender (based on self ID) for at least 15 years. That it's the status quo etc.

ambarosie2.bsky.social•12 days ago

So, women are by and large ok with trans women using their toilets and men, as usual, know better.

maxh.name•12 days ago

Is this confirmed? I thought the Times report was just wrong. Though I guess "it *was* wrong but then they decided to go along with it anyway" is also an option.

reddington123.bsky.social•12 days ago

40 years ago I managed an office in Leeds of 100+, 95% female. A trans woman asked if they could use the girls room during a staff meeting. 100% said Yes. Since then politicians have fecked the whole subject

mossdeb.bsky.social•12 days ago

#RedTories

birdswing.bsky.social•12 days ago

#RedReform

celestialeoten.bsky.social•12 days ago

Complaining about Labour’s transphobia while writing for a publication that has repeatedly platformed and legitimised terf rhetoric is rich

nickjonesdrums.bsky.social•11 days ago

Labour and with it the UK have abandoned their policies to attempt to get the right wing voters on their side? I don't want selfish,racist, homophobic,nationalistic hate-fuelled, ignorant, brainwashed and narrow-minded people on my side

mikebrady.bsky.social•12 days ago

Expose that Reform will kill net zero for Elon Musk and investigate why.

One-minute video summary. ⬇️

People in the US are waking up to what Musk is doing and these poster are appearing.

He’s gutting federal expenditure as Trump backs his Mars plan.⬇️

Don’t let Reform import Musk’s destruction.

thomaskonig.bsky.social•12 days ago

The parliamentary “left” (insofar as Labour can be said to be at all on the left anymore) just absolutely refuses to learn the very simple lesson that you cannot build unity and solidarity by proving that you are willing to sacrifice minorities the moment it is politically convenient for you.

erikasgarden.bsky.social•12 days ago

Its like they saw the Democrats move to the right, get destroyed in the election last year and went "that's it, that's the winning strategy"

jessdee.bsky.social•12 days ago

They literally were advising the Harris campaign. The heads of that campaign were three former heads of Zuckerberg's charity...

erikasgarden.bsky.social•12 days ago

What's even more mad is that the Harris campaign was up in the polls due to her and Walz rhetoric, then they hired Hilary Clinton's campaign team of all things who told them to drop everything that was working because it was "mean" 🤦🏻‍♀️

erikasgarden.bsky.social•12 days ago

Why they thought Hilarys 2016 team was a good team to listen to amazes me

hleehurley.substack.com•12 days ago

And having a committed, Christian Concern-backed idealogue as Health Minister

jamtart.bsky.social•12 days ago

who's that?

kingless2.bsky.social•12 days ago

The individual that I despise the most on earth is the racist war criminal Netanyahu. Starmer is beginning to draw my attention.

steviescot.bsky.social•12 days ago

Why is anyone surprised?

#UKLabour have attacked:

#Pensioners
#Poor
#Vulnerable
#Disabled
##ScottishDemocracy and Nationhood

Sold out
#WASPI

Targeted
#Refugees

Promoted
#Rascism
#FarRight

#RedTories are as corrupt and as vile as last Gov.

#ScottishLabour

sara-jayne.bsky.social•12 days ago

They have made our lives not worth living and at best nobody gives a shit, the other half are celebrating.

kien-1968.bsky.social•12 days ago

Under Starmer, they are almost less of a Labour party than the Tories were under Thatcher

jacobsjunior.bsky.social•12 days ago

Why? Maybe Labour have seen that for most people the trans movement is not something that matters? Maybe it’s because there are simply people born male and people born female, and the idea of it being something fluid, most people just find it ridiculous?

daftcunt.bsky.social•12 days ago

Maybe you’re a twat?

theanthonymark.bsky.social•12 days ago

I had a look at their profile. They’re definitely a twat.

jacobsjunior.bsky.social•12 days ago

Yeah, maybe, but aren’t we all from time to time? All I’m trying to say is that trans rights rights aren’t some big election winner. I think most people just don’t care that much. I care about the cost of living and the state of the world my children are growing up.

allotment-life.co.uk•12 days ago

You don't beat fascism by appeasing fascists, as Neville Chamberlain discovered. Starmer needs to learn the lessons of history.

adyj.bsky.social•12 days ago

An electoral system that only elects different shades of Tory

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