This week, Israeli academic @shaielb.bsky.social said he'd changed his mind. Israel is committing genocide, he concluded. I spoke to him about his change in position - and why he didn't think this sooner. Felt this was a very interesting discussion! www.youtube.com/watch?v=osJC... - ThreadSky

owenjones.bsky.social • 4 days ago

This week, Israeli academic @shaielb.bsky.social said he'd changed his mind.

Israel is committing genocide, he concluded.

I spoke to him about his change in position - and why he didn't think this sooner.

Felt this was a very interesting discussion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osJCixlcdzc

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hettyvanderklis.bsky.social•4 days ago

Shaiel should talk with Ori Goldberg or Ilan Pappe. It is impossible to talk about Gaza without mentioning the atrocities in the Westbank and the history since '48. In other words; you cannot hide behind 7/10 and 7/10 was not the starting point or THE escalation.

maaaaaaaaaark.bsky.social•4 days ago

Former US National Security Advisor Mike Waltz caught using an Israeli developed version of Signal that archives messages for government communications. How is this not front page news??

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/photo-appears-shows-mike-waltz-using-signal-app-can-archive-messages-rcna204434

hellosalam.bsky.social•4 days ago

Israëli academic finally acknowledges what the rest of the world has seen for the last 19 months!
And you seem to laud it as some kind of self reflection.
He is part of the problem.

infj-afreethinker.bsky.social•4 days ago

Israeli academic and "committed zionist". He knows the Israeli military intimately…what…making him complicit to previous war crimes? These so called liberal zionists are only turning now (way too late) to appear to be on the right side of history (not out of compassion for Palestinians).

artemis165.bsky.social•4 days ago

Of *course* it was/is genocide. 🧐🧐😱

pastelchalk.bsky.social•4 days ago

He's a zionist who's been cheerleading this genocide and engaging in atrocity propaganda and war crimes denial since the very beginning. He's also a sex pest who's been harassing minors. Why the hell are you platforming this person? Delete your video.

https://x.com/PixieOfDeath/status/1916986300898451530

https://x.com/receipts_lol/status/1918323013197676585

teflonslinky.bsky.social•4 days ago

I think if you're wrong about something like this for the length of time it takes to have murdered the insane number of people Israel has murdered that you should probably say 'I was wrong', give all your money to Gazans, and then shut the fuck up about everything forever

Congrats on step 1 I guess

my-random-name.bsky.social•4 days ago

Damn straight!

There’s a whole lot of steps that have been laid out over the millennia.

Contrition/Remorse
Repentance
Atonement
Redress.restitution.reparations.amends
Penance.penitence
Redemption
Absolution

grumpyoldleftygit.bsky.social•3 days ago

A self-labelled Zionist - who says STILL that 🇮🇱's past military incursions into 🇵🇸 were justified and necessary & who realised 5 months into the current offensive that Israel was lying about its objectives - continued to lie "to [him]self" (and others?) FOR OVER ANOTHER YEAR that it wasn't a genocide

alchristantaur.bsky.social•3 days ago

Superb discussion and very balanced. Shail Ben Ephraim gave great insights into israeli insecurities and perspectives countered as always by Owens knowledge. Shail's calls for actions to limit the israeli states genocide by Western govs are essential. His insights for a future peace and equality key

acapulet.bsky.social•4 days ago

Owen I appreciate this but I cannot forgive him, I'm thousands of miles away and I saw it from the damned start.

artistredreamer.bsky.social•3 days ago

exactly - i am seeing nothing but prevarication and limited emotional intelligence to not recognize that war crimes + settler colonial mindset + siege are all PART OF IT

No excuses. Bah. Humbug. Tell me how come we ALL could see it? Livestreamed. Informed.

newscoulomb.bsky.social•3 days ago

As Daniel Mate said, "It's taken 18 months, and we've only gotten one!?!?"

FFS

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