Telegram has full access to all of the content of group chats and regular one-to-one chats due to lack of end-to-end encryption. Their opt-in secret chats use homegrown end-to-end encryption with weaknesses. Deleting the content from the app likely won't remove all copies of it. - ThreadSky

grapheneos.org • 188 days ago

Telegram has full access to all of the content of group chats and regular one-to-one chats due to lack of end-to-end encryption. Their opt-in secret chats use homegrown end-to-end encryption with weaknesses. Deleting the content from the app likely won't remove all copies of it.

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gawyd.bsky.social•185 days ago

@johannesbeers.bsky.social

grapheneos.org•188 days ago

Telegram has heavily participated in misinformation campaigns targeting actual private messaging apps with always enabled, properly implemented end-to-end encryption such as Signal. Should stop getting any advice from anyone who told you to use Telegram as a private messenger.

grapheneos.org•188 days ago

Telegram is capable of handing over all messages in every group and regular one-to-one chat to authorities in France or any other country. A real private messaging app like Signal isn't capable of turning over your messages and media. Telegram/Discord aren't private platforms.

aldorithms.bsky.social•187 days ago

Revolt is a nice alternative to Discord.

grapheneos.org•187 days ago

A major example of how Telegram's opt-in secret chat encryption has gone seriously wrong before: https://words.filippo.io/dispatches/telegram-ecdh/.

The practical near term threat is for the vast majority of chats without end-to-end encryption: 100% of Telegram group chats and the regular 1-to-1 chats.

grapheneos.org•187 days ago

Companies should treat user data as toxic waste rather than as something they want to gather and hoard for business models like targeted advertising. It's not a good thing to have a bunch of sensitive data which could be obtained by adversaries or requested by a government.

grapheneos.org•187 days ago

Not using E2EE creates a lot more legal risk than using E2EE at least while E2EE is still legal in most of the world. Not using E2EE gives the technical capability to moderate, provide data, etc. and therefore governments expect that to be done. That's why they hate E2EE.

grapheneos.org•187 days ago

Apps like Signal and SimpleX can't access messages, media and profiles. Telegram has access to all content in private group chats and regular private messages unless people used a secret chat. They can automatically scan it, moderate and provide data to authorities based on it.

khushu.bsky.social•187 days ago

Telegram encryption is a marketing joke. They made it so unusable, I am sure they would have dropped sooner than later, and no one might have noticed.

skahtboi.bsky.social•187 days ago

What does one expect from a Russian agent pretending to be an expat billionaire?

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