Saying “you don’t see color” is a lot like “defund the police”. It’s NOT meant to be translated literally, but far easier to say than “I don’t treat people of different races differently. Everyone is seen as equal to me!”
For my work it was about recruiting people most impacted or most familiar with an issue. If you are providing services to seniors in rural Michigan, then hiring someone who lives there or is familiar through lived experience. That’s a niche example but similar to what I have seen done.
Agreed I wish people would take time to learn and not believe everything politicians tell them. Ironically for my office we tried to recruit men to apply or be trained. We also did a lot of outreach to faith-based organizations to ensure their belief systems were being respected and accommodated.
Prior to hiring it’s about finding pockets of the population who aren’t seeking out the work & finding out why. Usually doing special education events, like women in STEM (which if you didn’t know have all been cancelled if they were fed run/funded).
Good post on more of the nuances of the argument - very cool work you just described (kind of a root cause analysis if you will on why something is or is not happening)
Idk, but I do think there is a merit-based lawsuit in the fact that Black women hold 60% of the masters degrees in the US but clearly face discrimination in hiring and promotion as they do not hold 60% of the positions requiring masters degrees.
Most excellent question. My guess is judging by a person's skin color or being told by someone else who might have coveted that job (even if the person wasn't a DEI hire).
Nobody was smart enough when the “right” accused Harris of being a DEI hire, what made her unqualified ? Is just being black mean your a DEI hire ? And does that accusation mean that there is no one of color qualified ? The sheer racism beneath the think argument is shocking so is our lack of fight
A DEI hire is someone who was hired specifically because of an immutable characteristic. Biden openly said he'd pick a woman of color for SCOTUS for example. That makes Ketanji a DEI appointment even if she's also qualified. Kamala too. DEI is unfair to them too. It should stop.
How is giving someone a job unfair to them ? They benefited from the job , also DEI doesn’t mean they arnt qualified YOUR making that assumption all DEI means is attempting to find a minorities who have been traditionally overlooked…
White men are not well educated in the United States compared to other groups, but have been given preferential treatment in hiring for hundreds of years. Please stop.
You can try and twist it all you want, but people like a Ketanji Brown Jackson are incredibly qualified. A real problem is mediocre white men who fail upward due to unfair hiring practices. Been true since the founding of this country.
Sounds like a AD against the death penalty, maybe an argument against attack police at the capitol. If you feel the initiative of putting minorities typically ignored in positions like judges and government it sounds like a YOU problem. Don’t tell me it’s immoral what immoral was the status quo
Total Bull Shit saying you want to hire a women of color doesn’t mean she isn’t qualified , can you not look for a qualified women of color to be your running mate ? I’ll have to ask what’s wrong with choosing a women of color to be VP ? It’s political yes so was JD Vance so was USSCJ Amy,
I didn't say it means she isn't qualified. But it still makes her a DEI hire. It means she won her job with less competition than "everyone" because the pool was narrowed down bases on immutable characteristics. That's DEI. It's discriminatory. And it's wrong.
This is where liberals need to raise their game MAGA wants to make DEI a bad thing, when it’s not. inherently it attempts to correct obvious discrepancies from generations of racism
You can dress it up and call it whatever you want that doesn't make it right. It is very literally hiring someone based on immutable characteristic. It is wrong for any reason regardless of who it benefits and how virtuous the intent.
So she’s qualified then what’s the problem ? Because he stated he wanted to choose someone of color, Trump made it repeatedly clear that his final Supreme Court justice would be a women, didn’t see anybody throwing up arms over that, wonder why
The problem is that it's discriminatory and illegal and a violation of the civil rights act. Trump is wrong if he did that and Biden is wrong too. Your efforts to put me in a box will fail because I'm not a partisan. Biden did her a great disservice. He codified that she was hired bc of race.
Exactly MAGA assumes DEI are not qualified and ONLY chosen for color, it’s stupid circular logic, this idiot won’t go so far and say she isn’t qualified, which is the argument Kirk and the other nazies make
Donald Trump is a racist. What's that have to do with what I said? You asked how someone can see a DEI hire. I have you the answer. The answer is when the person doing the hiring says "we are going to do a DEI hire".
What's the difference between saying you'd pick a black woman for SCOTUS, because there aren't any and you believe that life experience is a needed perspective, than picking a young white guy as VP?
And yet my coworker in a wheelchair works circles around all the buff new hires who brag about what they can bench press. Between them, the "dei" hire is absolutely the gym bro trying to hit on a coworker instead of working.
A lot of people think that a DEI hire is any black person with a good job. They "obviously" can't be better qualified as a white man 🙄. In fact, the largest benefitters of DEI hiring have always been white women.
good point. I see colour and love all the things that make us unique...not so much different. We could learn a lot from each other if you just put down our guns and put your teeth back in
Yes, we must remember Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the content of their character but by the color of their skin on the DEI hiring chart".
The irony (hypocrisy?) of trump removing dei hires from gov while his vastly unqualified cabinet people get confirmed. Is he going to fire them too in a bit?
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DEI is not forced hires it is just a way to ensure everyone gets a fair shot and an attempt to remove inherent biases. It is being perversed by people who don’t understand and want to blame someone for their own failures.
Well, isn't it obvious that any non-white non-male can't possibly be qualified. Unless of course they are a rich Republican, and then of course they are qualified because they are rich.
Some are in wheelchairs, or on crutches, some have sight or hearing loss, some have fake limbs. Not all DEI hires are of color. But cruelty is the point.
Because all they see is white and anything that's not white they don't hire! When I was a retail manager I only saw color but not because I'm racist but because I needed to help balance the system. Sorry to the white trash I never hired my mistake! 🤣🤣🤣
Black people have less than 13% of the jobs here. I’ve already seen white families this week, that have moved for government jobs, only to have the offers withdrawn.
Many of the DEI hires are also white women. I understand he’s trying to harm minorities, but usually he hurts everyone.
as far as I understand, DEI hire it is anybody who is not a white straight male with no disabilities. Why did the federal government have to open up an entire department to hire people other than white straight men without disabilities?
The question is not quite accurate. They didn't open up an entire department for that. Departments started monitoring to see if they were, and taking steps if they weren't.
And the obvious answer to that question is that they weren't.
I never knew the history of the inception of DEI. I do find it very perplexing how well our institutions have been set up to support white men since the inception of this country.
Trump is literally the mediocre white man’s savior.
I’ve also witnessed companies use DEI in a way to specifically not hire minorities, by choosing the diversity they want to promote. For instance, giving preferential treatment in hiring veterans who are only white, males or hiring white, males from certain impoverished zip codes.
Now that is interesting.
It’s sad that there wasn’t a large enough platform
To show how even with DEI practices, white men still prevailed.
I’m learning a lot about all of the safeguards our institutions placed to protect white men. They are the most protected civilian in all of America.
“Diversity” in DEI refers to people from a variety of backgrounds at all levels in an organization, diversity of races, genders, disabilities, religions, ages, sexual orientations, class status, military service status and more. (Erica Foldy, NYU’s Wagner Graduate School of Public Service)
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The Welfare and Discrimination Act is gone via Executive order.
And people still talking about mid-terms.
It’s almost adorable in naivety.
And no, it does not make Ketanji a DEI hire. You have no concept of what DEI is.
Also, there is no such thing as a "DEI hire."
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When someone openly states that a person will be chosen based on immutable characteristics. That's a DEI hire. Even if the person is also qualified.
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Many of the DEI hires are also white women. I understand he’s trying to harm minorities, but usually he hurts everyone.
And the obvious answer to that question is that they weren't.
Trump is literally the mediocre white man’s savior.
It’s sad that there wasn’t a large enough platform
To show how even with DEI practices, white men still prevailed.
I’m learning a lot about all of the safeguards our institutions placed to protect white men. They are the most protected civilian in all of America.
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