UPDATE: President Trump said he spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin about the war in Ukraine and other issues, and that they agreed to visit each other's nations and have their teams start negotiations immediately on the conflict.
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So if we impeach President Chump, er, tRump, would we be better off with Vance as Dictator for Life, or with President Musk as Supreme Leader for Life? Who decides? Putin?
Just asking.
Trump said to Putin that EUA will not spend more resources on Ukraine war and Putin said that will talk to Ukraine about the conditions of their surrender.
Selling out Ukraine (and with that Europe) to Putin and backing out of NATO.
The connections between Trump and Putin are getting more and more clear. Trump is tearing down western power in favor / by order of Putin. Or he is just so plain stupid.
If you recall, this is Trumps MO. He had peace negotiations with the Taliban and didn’t include the Afghan government. And look what happened there. He threw the Afghan government under the bus and years of U.S. tax payer dollars (nation building) went for naught.
Putin can’t come here. There are warrants for his arrest. We can’t guarantee his safety. trump can go to Russia though. He will probably accidentally defenestrate from a high floor.
I am Sorry Ukraine that you are being sold out by our country. I know you were there trying not only to defend your freedoms, but the rest of the free world as well. Keep up the fight and dont give in to any demands that are not what you are looking for, Hopefully Europe will step up to replace us.
I'm sure it was a lot of overly ingratiating fawning over his mentor than a fair solution. Besides he can't make a decision until Elon gives him the OK.
should have been a (three way) conference call trump initiated that included Zelensky. He should not have to be informed about what others are planning for the people he leads.
they'll be negotiating only what each of them can grab before the other 'reacts'.
in other words- who sells what. rump will sell out ukraine and parts of europe currently under direct or indirect nato protection. he might get gaza etc in return.
not that anything is theirs to sell.
'shocking'
Excuse me but who the hell does dictator Trump think he is DICTATING what happens in Ukraine? Keep going my friends and you will have no friends. Expect fir maybe Putin
Swing and a miss again, npr - your map should also show the part of the Kursk region under Ukrainian control. But I get it, you want it understood that Ukraine won't be heard in this "negotiation".
Just to be clear…Our ally is Ukraine. Their president is President Zelenskyy. Our adversary, Putin invaded Ukraine, a sovereign country. You don’t make “deals” with the devil.
Update: Trump's price for protection is Ukraine's rare earth metals, which they lose anyway if Russia were to annex them. Now he goes to Putin to see if they will offer him better to *not* protect democracy. What a f-ing traitor.
No coincidence that this is publicized as serious people (not including Hegseth, Rubio, et al) are at Munich Security Conference. Anything that comes out of Munich will be overshadowed by Trump/Putin gibberish.
If the US is determining that Ukraine will not get into NATO and no longer wants to support the Ukraine efforts, then the US can shut the fuck up because they then have no say in any part of it.
Negotiate what!? The annexing of the Ukraine so they can plunder the natural resources. Maybe they'll talk about removing people from an unsafe war torn area!? Nothing good will come from these two clowns.
“Negotiations” should NOT include ukranian surrender from their own sovereign nation!! Russia is free to withdraw any time or its economy will continue to crumble…
The fucker sold out Ukraine. Him and his drunken Nazi Sec of State just killed any chances of NATO membership. Trump’s sucking of Putin’s cock is making Ukraine another Poland divided by Hitler and Stalin. They both need to be ended.
Yes Pappa Putin, I'll ask those nasty Ukrainians to fall in line for you, whatever pleases you daddy, now come back to bed. Negotiations will amount to demanding Ukraine just behave and give Daddy what he wants.
Wondering if Zelensky is involved at all in the talks between US and Russia. Seems to me, that the President of Ukraine should have a say as to what happens with his country.
When ever you think this you should take the step of saying this via phone to your representatives so they know. If lots of people did this it would have weight. Where as this doesn’t have anything behind it except to feel better.
Hegseth, the FOX weekend host (AKA, Secretary of Defense), says the US is no longer primarily focused on keeping Europe safe. And that continuing to help Ukraine is unrealistic. Is he speaking on behalf of Russia or the people of the United States?
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Just asking.
That what I read.
The connections between Trump and Putin are getting more and more clear. Trump is tearing down western power in favor / by order of Putin. Or he is just so plain stupid.
in other words- who sells what. rump will sell out ukraine and parts of europe currently under direct or indirect nato protection. he might get gaza etc in return.
not that anything is theirs to sell.
'shocking'
Invaders don’t get negotiated with. Get the fuck out. Problem solved.
Fuck Putin, and fuck his little fluffer Trump.
He needs to be instutionalized and left to play Civilization with WW1 documentaries on loop.
Kaiser Donny.
Orange Satan says negotiations on Ukraine war to begin 'immediately' after call with Putin
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4g97971rwnt
Seriously, the opposition (which I guess means Alt Park Service) should fund raise off those photos.