new gen furries and fandom people who advocate for straight up violence against furries with weird kinks are genuinely the scariest group of fandom people out there.
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the block button and mute button are right there. that should be the end of their interactions with something they don't like. It's that easy but people I guess like being hateful and violent and I assume it makes them feel in control or powerful.
they don't know that pet could kick their asses anyway,
agree, being silly aside, the puritanism in people new to Spaces like this, and especially queer spaces is a worrisome trend and seems to fall more to the "one of the good ones" argument when people can't reconcile said puritanism with history
I’m not even that kinky, but I will be a forever-hater of people who try to walk us back from how far we’ve come. Leave the consenting adults with the money who keep your cons alive alone and do your homework.
The death threats me and my partner got last year still make my head spin. They turn fucking bloodthirsty as soon as they have a “reason” to wail on someone. Eager to punish.
Unironically we need to bring back the sentiments of "YKINMKATF", "don't like? don't look", and the term "squick" because the loss of OG fandom language and the existing puritanical dichotomy of things either being "morally pure & correct" or "deserving of death threats & doxxing" is OUTRAGEOUS
(Before anybody asks, that longass acronym i used means "your kink is not my kink and that's fine" which is how us old people responded when we saw weird freaky shit that's not in our interests)
“Ain’t my cuppa joe” is something people need to get into their heads. Not just for kinks, just generally. It’d solve so many stupid grievances that end up turning super hostile istg.
It's fine to not like a kink for whatever reason, but it shouldn't turn to violence at any point. There is a list of things I don't like and don't seek out, but I'm not going to condone violence to anyone who enjoys it.
Discussions of kink in/as furry spaces has become even more polarizing as time goes on and I think a lot of it has to do with how language has changed over time... Sexuality will always be a complex topic, and some people want an easy answer even if it means stripping away any nuance 😔
It seems that so many today have such a dim, limited view of sexuality, since algorithms and advertisers have choked out most discussion and depictions of sex that isn't full-blown porn.
Absolutely!! Like the furry fandom has grown a lot in the last decades, but it's still out of the mainstream. It's always going to be a little weird, but energy spent trying to make it "normal" is time better spent enjoying engaging with kink in safe environments.
I think the kids who I did go to school with we're pretty levelheaded, but that also might come due to me coming from a school where open discussion on these topics was encouraged that way one opinion didn't feel dominant and you got all sides. I now realize most schools do not do that for kids v-v
It's really fucking concerning. Especially since I've seen ACTUAL groomers and pedos get away with grooming minors or drawing pedophilic art. But then someone draws fart or scat, and THATS too far for you?
Or a furry artist will say "I am ok with fictional incest between 2 adult fictional characters" and then people will register it as "I support irl incest and the grooming of minors by their fathers." Like... NO THOSE ARE 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SENTENCES MY NIGGA. STOP.
It is wildly horrifying to see there are young furries red-pilled on Nazi-beliefs who think other furries into things like watersports, balloons, drones, and puphoods deserve to be lynched and are doxxing folk and having them swatted.
Scary shit from these Twatter brained channer furries.
when people have deeply unhealthily repressed sexuality, and hold it as a moral standard, seeing other people not following their "natural" rules and genuinely enjoying themselves rather than feeling conflicted and shameful confuses and frightens them because they can't comprehend it.
While I've only been a furry for 3ish years (dunno if that makes me a newgen or not) this also bothers me. One of the biggest draws to the fandom for me other than the very pretty art was how accepting and kind they were of Anything and Everything, be it preferences or situations. (gonna continue)
Kindness and Acceptance is what in my opinion this fandom was built off of, so seeing people in the fandom not doing that genuinely sucks. There are Tech Furries, Health Furries, Gamer Furries, Vanilla Furries, Kinky Furries, and so much more but what brought them all together was their kindness.
I feel like that is a very 'old-school' mindset in many circles. I hope that furries like you and I who prize the radical acceptance the fandom was founded on can help turn the tide. 😸
I believe the "sanitization" of the fandom comes from the introducion of more and more minors into the fandom, but imo that just means that sections of the fandom need to be kept sanitized for them . . . not the fandom as a whole. We have those who want Sanitization and those who want freedom
You might be right, but from my perspective (joining the fandom in my teens ~20 years ago) it's always appealed to the young. I think the difference is that today's youth are under near-constant surveillance, and have internalized some very problematic ideas because of it.
I think safe spaces for minors and bridging the gap between young and old is super important too, though! It's a problem that the furry fandom in particular, and all of queer culture, needs to solve.
"Keep furry weird" they yell, because they see a lot of us older (gods I'm part of the "older furries now aren't I?) furries saying it
Immediately followed by "NO NOT LIKE THAT"
Anyway, I'm on team latex puppies with diapers and fake cookie coochies because they're literally hurting noone
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They don't take it well when you point out they are publicly fantasizing about mutilating and murdering actual people over imaginary crimes, making them sicker than anything they're objecting to.
I never understood how people can make it their life's work to demonize fetishes they don't like.
If I see someone engaging in a fetish that's not in my wheelhouse I just go "hey good for them, I hope they're having fun" and then I leave them alone.
I miss when fandom was 90% freaks, but normies got bored during lockdown and just never left. Even when a lot of fandom spaces just clearly arent meant for them they still throw tantrums and demand everyone act how they personally want.
I don't think that normies shouldn't be allowed in the fandom, but I also think they shouldn't bitch and complain about the community built around bein weird and freaky and accepting of others who are the same . . . are weird and freaky
Exactly, It's fine if u just wanna join and have fun, but how are people gonna barge into a space thats existed for years one day and start dictating how everyone acts and what they are and arent allowed to do? It's a specific kind of entitlement I personally see with ppl very new to fandom
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All I end up seeing are very terfy-talking points
agree, being silly aside, the puritanism in people new to Spaces like this, and especially queer spaces is a worrisome trend and seems to fall more to the "one of the good ones" argument when people can't reconcile said puritanism with history
I say as long as people are consenting and no one is being hurt who gives a damn?
like people just straight up being extremely violent towards someone because they draw art they don't understand.
i worry about how radicalized these younger people are getting (not in a good way)
*.45 ,.308, 12 gauge, etc.
Scary shit from these Twatter brained channer furries.
Immediately followed by "NO NOT LIKE THAT"
Anyway, I'm on team latex puppies with diapers and fake cookie coochies because they're literally hurting noone
Stay Wild
If I see someone engaging in a fetish that's not in my wheelhouse I just go "hey good for them, I hope they're having fun" and then I leave them alone.
It's not hard.