The fact is - and this must have been posited elsewhere - that Putin simply cannot stop now.
Not because he can’t help himself, but because if he pauses or shows any signs of relenting, his opponents will swoop.
He needs perpetual war now, and that will manifest as a relentless march westwards.
His bluffs has been called out multiple times. All the red lines he put in Ukraine has been crossed. WW3 will start if Ukraine get's F16's. Himars etc.
The idea that a country with no nuclear weapons could start WW3 by defending itself against a foreign invader is so ludicrous that it makes those repeating the claim look distinctly non-serious.
that is what struck me as well - seems clear he is angling to support Russia. The signals have been there since the early 2010's, but now much more overt.
Newspapers have taken to this really lazy trend of using shocking quotes from populist figures as headlines in lieu of actual reporting, and Guardian one of the worst offenders, sadly. Tory HQ has been capitalising on this for years, especially during Johnson’s premiership.
Oh, I dunno... if Trump throws a hissy fit about Europe not "falling in line" about abandoning Ukraine and physically assists Russia, I can totally see it devolving into a larger conflict very quickly.
Did I say it was? I was commenting on it being an empty threat from Trump. You know, the insecure, power hungry, "respect me or else" wanna-be dictator in charge of the US military?
If Trump and Vance were the presidents of Ukraine, the Russian-Ukrainian war would have ended long ago, because Trump and Vance would have fled on the first day Russia invaded Ukraine, and then Ukraine would no longer exist 🤣, they actually have the nerve to laugh at Zelensky, shameless bad guys
It's not Zelensky & the Ukraine that could cause this WWIII he speaks of......it would be because of Donald Trump & the United States of America. He inappropriately played this wrong, Putin will be furious & Trump will act irrationally..putting the world at risk. And he could care less. Watch!!
AUG/2024 'We're heading to World War III,' " Trump=Middle East
JUL/2024 "Trump cautioned---World War III may be imminent if Democratic frontrunner Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential race" Black woman President
OCT/2023 "Trump---closer to World War III than we've ever been" Israel
It is odd given the whole debacle. There is far more important stuff to focus on. Why not focus on Trump's obvious lack of cognitive capacity for example? I'd be analysing his inability to articulate, well, anything. Or his mafioso tendencies. The story is about Trump not Zelenskyy for sure.
The subheading though: "make a deal or we're out". That's not the basis for negotiating a 'deal'. Trump's not interested in a deal; he wants supplication, he wants capitulation, and he wants 'raw' earths (pillock!) He's running a protection racket not country.
It's time to start gathering people in large cities and small. We won't call them militia but protectors of freedom. It's the only way to stop what's happening.
The headline, sub-headline and choice of photo are shaded in tabloid-like form, trying to make Trump look strong and acting like he was trying for something good when instead he was publicly berating an ally while undermining democracy and sabotaging world peace.
It's been Trump's goal since before his first term. He's been champing at the bit to be Putin's "guy on top" in a US/Russia "new world order" because he's that fucking stupid.
This is very unresponsible by that newspaper. A lot of people only read headlines. And that is what trump thrives on. Soundbytes and headlines. Which is also why he was ambushed like this. trump is trying to push a narrative. And idiot newspaper headlines like this are enabling that
I'm a longtime Guardian subscriber and have observed the decline of the paper under its current editorship from an interesting and radical voice to a wishy-washy liberal mess. Trump would be delighted with this framing.
Something is going on, isn't it. I've noticed it, too. They sold The Observer (to tortoise media) when they didn't need to, now long-standing journalists are leaving, and the content is changing.
I found that to be the most shocking comment of the meeting. Trump knows, without a doubt, Putin’s plans for escalation. Hence, no security guarantees.
Seeing Zelenskyy just landed in the UK, this is a shameful choice of headline. Zelenskyy should never even have had to travel so much to ask for support, support should have been a given. There should have been enough Russian oligarch stashes taken/sold in the UK alone to pass to Ukraine to fund it.
The only person gambling with world war three is the person who thought it a good idea to invade another country. Donald Trump should have reminded his boss over in Moscow before engaging in such a misadventure.
Trump said in his campaign he wanted to be a dictator on day 1. Zelensky has the integrity to stand up to dictators, like a true leader of the free world 🙏🏼
That is because Trump has already sold-out America and will not support NATO when Putin continues to make his moves and NATO is forced to react while America's is held in check by the Putin puppet!👺
Poland did consider their defense of country as the start of WW2. They fought to keep their country from the invading Germans. The silence and inaction of other countries started WW2.
That is sad. It's Trump that actually wants WWIII so he can do whatever he wants. As he is a true narcissist, he is trying to blame Zelensky. Zelensky has a right to protect his country. I expect if Putin wanted Alaska, Trump would give it to him. Think about that.
I think trump leaked Putin’s plan !! If he can’t have Ukraine, he’s not above nuking them !! trump hinted that Putin will start WWIII if he doesn’t get his way !!
I was a political prisoner of China. I would like to tell the American people, to whom I owe my freedom, especially my Republican friends, that the US is not Xi’s China. At any moment you should and can unite and oppose and stop Trump’s authoritarian tendency without being put in a Gulag or shot.
TASS was there covering the meeting, but Trump blocked the AP, and Reuters, from covering the meeting.
We were supposed to believe "Russia Russia Russia" was a hoax.
By any chance The Times? Cancelled my subscription this week after repeated censorship in the comments section of any comment deemed dissenting of the populist slant of said article. Repeatedly for weeks.
Something odd going on at The G recently. First, they sell The Observer to Tortoise Media, now the content seems to be changing with long standing journalists leaving. Smells off...
NO NUT JOB IS PLAYING WITH FIRE. HOPEFULLY HE GETS BURNED SOON WHEN ALL FREE NATIONS TURN THEIR BACKS ON THE US. ASAP. THE DAY WILL COME WHEN THEY NEED ARTICLE 5?????😠💔🥲👎👎👎👎😠😠😠😠
Republicans will continue to bow to Putin until the day their respective pee-pee tapes are released to the world by Putin and they are forced to resign.
One if the things he said during the campaign is that there would be World War 3 if Harris was elected. It’s a common ploy he uses to get the outcome he wants.
The one with the power to start a world war uses the threat of it to take other people's stuff, puts the responsibility of stopping his war on them. That's how imperialism works!
Letting the country and the world know that Trump would enter into a war allied with Russia against our allies seems to me to be the biggest headline. What am I missing?
This was just organized for Russian state television. To 'expose' Zelensky. Putin is losing support for the war, he is trying to frame this so that this will help him get more support.
The fact that he said this AT ALL is absolutely INSANE and you know damn well he did it intentionally in front of the entire world because it's a warning from Putin. 🤬 I have never been more pissed.
Dictator trump is a coward! Before trump, would anyone believe that a US Pres. would allow someone like MTG’s boyfriend to ridicule (in the Oval Office) a president that is being attacked by Russia?
Across the Guardian and the Obs online heads are now almost all of the format ‘Apocalyptic quote’: how x did y. It’s a quick and easy way to get the job done, but sells the reader short, and now it’s all over the print products as well.
Hitler retook the Rhineland in 1936 by marching troops in, no one objected.
Hitler marched into Austria in 1938 unopposed.
Hitler took the Sudetenland w approval of Britain/France in 1938.
Putin took Crimea in 2014 unopposed at the same time 'Russian separatists' took control of SE Ukraine.
Then:
Four ideas to put on your TO DO LIST -
1. Impeach or remove FOTUS.
2. Vacate the Chair.
3. Support Ukraine
4. Vote every conservative OUT OF OFFICE! EVERY ONE!!!
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Not because he can’t help himself, but because if he pauses or shows any signs of relenting, his opponents will swoop.
He needs perpetual war now, and that will manifest as a relentless march westwards.
Putin constantly threatens everyone with WWIII, but it never happens because Putin is a BS artist, who doesn’t want to die himself.
If anyone ever had the guts to callout Putin on his threats, they would find that he’s bluffing.
Tariffs and Sponsoring Fascism & turning a blind eye to it, costing up to autocrats and fascists is the US thing to do when capital needs saving.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
Trump sees value for himself and Putin.
Biden saw value for US hegemony and Corporate expansion of soft power into Ukraine.
Either way their working people will pay the costs.
Maybe just that editor’s instinct for the most explosive headline.
https://youtu.be/YsIntuxmXf0?si=uXALHekQl-AkasBZ
Every actors' reations show their hand!
You have just detected a russian asset, on this instance for example
OCTOBER 2016 = Here's a golden oldie of Trump banging his same worn drum -with same BS song https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-world-war-iii-syria/index.html
---strategy."
1/2014 THIS TIME about critics to Trump's Muslin ban.
J McCain & Graham critic: Senators looking to start WWIII. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316785-trump-warns-senators-looking-to-start-world-war-iii/ TRUMP's embrace WWIII - any excuse serves?
JUL/2024 "Trump cautioned---World War III may be imminent if Democratic frontrunner Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential race" Black woman President
OCT/2023 "Trump---closer to World War III than we've ever been" Israel
Putin wanted NATO dismantled and yesterday Trump did that.
Trump can't be trusted.
I read it as an admission of intent. From Trump.
It just doesn't look like world war two, so we get confused.
MI5 needs to take him out.
THE ONLY ENTITY MISSING IN THIS WHOLE THING?
UKRAINE IS GOING TO START WORLD WAR III?
WHO IS THE AGGRESSOR?
WHO IS THE WAR CRIMINAL?
WHO IS TO BLAME?
WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER.
DEFLECTION, AMERICON "will start www 3"
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0dA-QalwhYH9_Zo64mA2Zi2mHKlcVmleW5yqK8P_woiGqP9f_UVedTDFQ_aem_acNVx894hHQUXg20mVc5qw
House of Putin 📕 Trump was housing the Russian Mafia and like Putin, against #NATO ✍🏻 Craig Unger
https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/to-president-zelenskyy-from-embarrassed-americans?source=bluesky-share-button&utm_source=bluesky&share=7adbc4c0-df1a-4f31-9f8a-c3d924a55f28
Did Trump get a piece of paper from Putin?
I would.
#IStandWithUkraine #FuckTrump #Resist #Felon47
No, you are, America. Ukraine is already in a fucking war, and you are sitting there while Captain Dipshit cheers Russia on.
Trump is a traitor...America needs to act now!!
We were supposed to believe "Russia Russia Russia" was a hoax.
Most sane leaders don’t go there.
You are gambling with WW3, Trump.
In both cases, dictatorships test the willingness of democracies to protect their fellows.
Hitler marched into Austria in 1938 unopposed.
Hitler took the Sudetenland w approval of Britain/France in 1938.
Putin took Crimea in 2014 unopposed at the same time 'Russian separatists' took control of SE Ukraine.
Then:
He finally ran into someone he can’t intimidate.
#TRAITORTRUMP
1. Impeach or remove FOTUS.
2. Vacate the Chair.
3. Support Ukraine
4. Vote every conservative OUT OF OFFICE! EVERY ONE!!!
MAKE THESE YOUR LIFE'S GOALS!