lol these people are dolts but I have wondered if ADHD was actually being unknowingly treated by smoking back when like 45% of adults used to smoke and if the rise of ADHD complaints is in anyway connected to our declining rates of smoking…
I can't access meds for my ADHD right now so I tried cigs based on suggestions from other people w ADHD & it does significantly boost my executive function.
The health risks are too great tho, so I just keep a bit on hand for rare days when I *really* need to get something done. If I remember, lol
Well, considering the American diet, obesity in the US was certainly suppressed by higher smoking rates. Why shouldn’t there be a similar story for ADHD?
Well, nicotine is a stimulant, and ADD/ADHD does get better with light stimulant use. Though with all the crap in the smoke, it's not a good trade. I mean if one is going there, might as well point to vapes instead, which lacks said smoke.
Also, Stock couldn't be more wrong. A cynical exploitative government would LOVE cigarettes: smokers (mostly) live a full working life (while paying cigarette taxes) then usually die quickly and horribly but cheaply of incurable lung disease, rather than enjoying retirement and collecting a pension.
After my dad died of lung cancer, I said I wouldn’t wish that death on anyone. But that was over 20 years ago, and it turns out now I can think of a lot of people who deserve to go out like that.
The only downside is the 🚬 will take too 🤬ing long to unalive these 🤬ers. But I totally love COPD and emphysema for them. Chest tubes filled with 🤢 Rigid, sclerotic 🫁 ASAP please & thank you 🙏🏻
Please excuse the intensity of my passion but both my parents, who were good people and who would be utterly enraged by these neofascists, died too young and painfully of smoking related disease. (They both were addicted to cigarettes from their teen years in the 1940s)
Nicotine suppresses the positive symptoms of schizophrenia (i.e. the ones that add something bad, as opposed to the negative symptoms which impair something good), probably because it causes dopamine to be released in the mesolimbic pathway. (Most antipsychotics meddle with dopamine.)
I do think cigarettes are kind of helpful for ADHD, because you have something to casually fixate on while you're doing something. My current focus mechanism is mostly singing along to whatever song I'm playing on loop because that doesn't kill me slowly
It has to do with the stimulant effect of nicotine, I think. I saw something on here recently suggesting that the reason we have so much more diagnosed ADHD today is that everyone isn't getting their stimulants via nicotine anymore.
Remembering this is the crowd who drank their own urine and ate horse 🐴 deworming paste saying it was a “cure” for a virus, along with guzzling fish tank cleaner, sounds about on par for this group.
I have ADD and cigarettes are awesome, and they go great with alcohol. They should make cigarettes that don't like, give you cancer if you smoke too many though, and that don't try to induce addiction. I think this technology exists but the tobacco cartel suppresses it deliberately
Cigarettes sadly, do have actual recreational and medicinal uses, they just also come with heart disease. It's why a lot of brainweird folk smoke at least occasionally despite knowing that they're bad for you.
My grandpa was bipolar and he drank a ton of coffee, smoked a ton of cigarettes, because before he was diagnosed really late in life (and by then he already had addictions) he wasn't prescribed lithium or stimulants. Caffeine and nicotine were good enough as ersatz though.
We should all buy tobacco stocks and pass out cigarettes at Rapist Trump's rallies, while people dressed as what they expect liberals to look like stand by criticizing smokers.
I really hope that they don't start chainsmoking to own the libs. That would be dreadful. 40 Capstan Full Strength a day and I'd be totally owned. (Do they still make Capstan Full Strength?)
Whilst studies do show that nicotine releases dopamine, and therefore explains why twice as many smokers have ADHD (they are self-medicating), as well as why ADHD smokers find it harder to quit:
You'd have to be an idiot to not realise there are far better ways of getting nicotine into your system!
Absolutely. The wheezing, being constantly out of breath, bad breath, smelling terrible, tarred lungs, stained teeth, yellow fingers, … all just propaganda.
These people are so far down the conspiracy rabbit hole that all of their life choices are based entirely on doing the opposite of whatever highly educated and trained professionals tell them to do. Be it, medical, social, economic, environmental etc 🙄
No. We are all interconnected, and cannot isolate ourselves from the damage they'll do. And it also effects their kids, who don't get to make their own choices.
@ocarinaoflana.bsky.social It genuinely seems like there's a war against medical literacy... Smoking now cures ADHD? Fuck me dead! I guess the overwhelming evidence of respiratory system complications and cancer is something those pesky doctors made up to stop the truth coming out! 😂😂😂
There is actually some research suggesting that nicotine may improve ADHD symptoms (not surprising that a neurotoxin does things to the brain).
Next they'll advise people to smoke crack cause cocaine is chemically related to ritalin so same difference
Some reports indicate that it's not nicotine that is dangerous, but the additives they put in cigarettes.
It's why vaping shows to be somewhat healthier, since it just has nicotine.
I mean, the head of HHS used heroin as a study aid instead of those nasty pharmaceuticals from labs so is there any doubt this was the way it was going to go
The fact I've had people tell me medical science is pseudo-science tells me there really is no hope for the future. I was just thinking about how people actually advocate for misinformation now.
I think part of it is because they don't understand the health advice they're getting and want to continue whatever self-destructive habit they have. They'd prefer to blindly walk off a cliff, instead of having the knowledge of the cliff ruining their stroll.
.....and while we're questioning the deep state's propaganda, are we certain that we can't cross the road without looking both ways, that having lions as pets really is a bad idea, and that the stove really is 'hot'?
from Woody Allen's Sleeper (1973). 'Miles' has been revived from a 200-yr coma..
Dr. Orva: Here, smoke this. And be sure you get the smoke deep down into your lungs.
Miles Monroe: I don't smoke!
Dr. Orva: It's tobacco! It's one of the healthiest things for your body.
Someone else was talking about how you shouldn't drink water cuz it's a solvent. I wanted to ask what they thought the Krebs cycle did or whether enzymes are useful outside of aqueous solutions but they scuttled away in their Flintstone car before I could ask.
I also heard piping car exhaust back into the cabin is also good for adhd and weight loss. Fossil fuels are made of the earth and are natural. Especially those diesel rolling coal trucks.
It’s honestly hard for me to believe that it’s bad for you to take all the ketamine and get into a hot tub, Elon Musk could really own the libs if he showed us!
So funny, I was just thinking about this in terms of MAHA's attacks on ADHD meds. OF COURSE there has been an uptick in diagnoses and medication of ADHD because millions of people were self-medicating with cigarettes before we learned they were cancer generation systems.
Vapes are actually (as long as they're made well and with some level of quality control) MUCH safer. Whatever you're inhaling is usually safer than inhaling any kind of "smoke".
That said, the safest way to imbibe any plant-based drug is to dry-vape it with an oven-style device.
This is where we are at as a species. A lot of people don't care about facts and won't try to look for them. The government is like some dark evil magic for them because they don't understand how it works.
When I was a kid, anti-drug teams would come visit our schools. One of their favorite things to Show and Tell was “these are your lungs after you smoke a pack a day for x years.”
Did they neglect to make the rounds for millennials and Gen Z?
Being contrarian. I swear, some of these dudes would rather stick a spear through their head than NOT do it if someone said “Don’t stick a spear through your head.” Like the guy who admitted to me seat belts save lives but “didn’t like the government telling him to wear one”.
Cigarettes are the only anxiolytic substance you can get over the counter that doesn't impair your work performance or ability to drive. For many people that's worth lung cancer or heart disease - why live if you're gonna feel terrified the whole time?
Nobody's ever really offered a quality alternative to cigs for the sheer relief of smoking one, and it's that extreme anxiety that has lead to young people going back to nicotine in droves via vapes and the like.
This is only true statistically for cigarettes, not nicotine vapes. The chemical damage and cancer causation come specifically from tobacco smoking, where nicotine-only vapes, patches, lozenges, and gum are not cancerous or likely to cause COPD, only a mild increase in heart disease chances.
Nicotine does have legitimate medicinal benefits for both adhd and anxiety. Sure, it has a very short half life so its benefits are very short lived, but you can get them without the shame of talking to a therapist and having to go through extensive diagnostic tests for getting a
2/prescription to this stimulant, and you're not limited to carrying just 28 doses on your person. Heck, you can have 60 aa day if you want and if helps stave off your anxiety or helps you focus.
I'm all for you antivaxxers self medicating your anxiety or adhd and avoiding the stigma of having a
3/therapist or psychopharmacologist gatekeeping you or selling you ineffective SSRIs or prescription amphetamines, plus it's slightly cheaper than paying for a therapist. Smoke up, as many as you want, conservatives. I encourage you to. Doctored have indeed been lying to you. Smoking makes
To be fair, it actually appears that ADHD is caused, ironically, by one part of the brain being HYPO-active. Therefore, most ADHD treatments work by STIMULATING that part, which then correctly regulates related parts of the brain.
Agreed. The link between smoking and lung cancer was not proven for many years, and it was very much the global warming debate of its day.
The smoking lobby was well funded by big business, and argued their adversaries were zealous Puritans who wanted social control. Sound familiar by any chance?
I watched Carlson talk about how nicotine is actually a super chemical that enhances brain activity. That is why librols hate it and love thc which only makes people stupid and has no benefits.
That was like 3 4 months ago so im surprised it took this long
I can't believe the government are trying to cover up the health benefits of huffing paint. I was dead before I huffed paint and now I can levitate and speak 15 languages.
We should encourage these people to congregate in unventilated, chemtrail-free Freedom Rooms for the maximal enjoyment of healthsome, life-extending tobacco.
Cigarettes protect you from Covid, Bird Flu, Measles and the Woke Mind Virus or something. It occurs to me, we'd be better posting this on Xitter probably.
There must be an ulterior motive for the government to be propagandising so hard about the place which is not a place of honor [sic], where no highly esteemed deed is commemorated, where nothing is valued.
Ya know, I don’t mind if these people kill themselves with cancer or measles or industrial accidents or a bridge that collapses or whatever. My only issue is, they’re going to take a lot of non-stupids with them.
It's a self reinforcing controlled breathing exercise that forces one to get up from what they're doing and walk around. So everything they tell you to do for your health, but at gun point (because addiction).
Added, you're pretty jittery (cuz addiction) leading up to your smoke break, so the hit takes the edge off, which simulates that relaxation feeling too.
I find the feeling of inhaling the sweet embrace of carcinogenic death is the perfect way to reduce stress every time after I hear JD Vance open his mouth.
I really fail to see how he exists on the internet. He's almost impossible to look at without feeling pity, he's aligned with people who think he's genetically inferior, and everything he says is too easy to dunk on. I signed up on Twitter just to dunk on him. Yet he wasn't bullied off the web.
Yeah, but when tobacco companies finally gave up paying consultants to discredit research, because the truth was impossible to stop, the consultants just found new customers in the fossil fuel business, and here we are...
If their comment is read at face value, I'd say the same thing
but knowing that chucklefeck, I'd say it's more likely that they know cigs are bad, and saying that "cigs are an antidote for adhd" in the eugenics sense.
most of those people just stay in their own insular bubbles, away from knowing the knowledge behind the greatness behind an ice cold pork soda from the local bodega
All too many non-smokers without ADHD in this thread. Cigarettes are bad for you, but when you have experienced the panic in your body the cigarettes create and felt how it takes away focus from the constant ADHD panic, you will think differently. Trust me on this. I works.
Still unhealthy though.
I'm not sure your track here....there are of course a lot of mechanisms one can use to combat any number of conditions (mental or physical) that might work, but in the end would absolutely cause more harm than good. Smoking to combat ADHD would fall into that category.
I wrote this based on personal experience. I know it is not healthy and not the right medicin, but it made me focus because of the switch of emotions it gave. I have now quit the cigarettes and learned other was to handle it plus medicine when needed. Medicine off when I need wild thoughts.
Well, amfetamin does, and actually works differently if you have ADHD. Never tried things stronger than a joint (also helps but I resisted).
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The health risks are too great tho, so I just keep a bit on hand for rare days when I *really* need to get something done. If I remember, lol
(Two years smoke free, after a 10-year addiction)
One day at a time, right?
Oh please oh please OH PLEASE.
Col. Sanders
“No, I’m Embassy”
(There's a correlation between schizophrenia and smoking but no one knows why really as far as I can tell)
You'd have to be an idiot to not realise there are far better ways of getting nicotine into your system!
You will never need to see a doctor again.
The AMA hates him for teaching this one simple trick!
https://youtu.be/bo_R5F__m_k?si=cWUtWXL0jJEG6Fgd
Next they'll advise people to smoke crack cause cocaine is chemically related to ritalin so same difference
It's why vaping shows to be somewhat healthier, since it just has nicotine.
Win/win.
I mean has anyone tested this? 🤔
Dr. Orva: Here, smoke this. And be sure you get the smoke deep down into your lungs.
Miles Monroe: I don't smoke!
Dr. Orva: It's tobacco! It's one of the healthiest things for your body.
Someone else was talking about how you shouldn't drink water cuz it's a solvent. I wanted to ask what they thought the Krebs cycle did or whether enzymes are useful outside of aqueous solutions but they scuttled away in their Flintstone car before I could ask.
My first job out of college involved supporting a hospital's cancer data registry. One of the things they tracked was whether a patient smoked.
One day, curious, I ran some basic stats and the correlation was shockingly obvious. I mean, I knew it, but seeing the numbers was ... wow
That said, the safest way to imbibe any plant-based drug is to dry-vape it with an oven-style device.
Whatever. Fuck it, I’ll join you.
No, the cigarettes won’t kill you, because I will.
Sure, I was joking.
(but also: wtf)
Did they neglect to make the rounds for millennials and Gen Z?
Horror Story Virtue Training was a definite factor in my adolescence.
After that: cigarette ads back on tv!
In 2020 there were 30 million.
The population has grown by 130 million in that time.
Government policy has caused that downward trend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=485Em2JF34M
Nicotine does have legitimate medicinal benefits for both adhd and anxiety. Sure, it has a very short half life so its benefits are very short lived, but you can get them without the shame of talking to a therapist and having to go through extensive diagnostic tests for getting a
I'm all for you antivaxxers self medicating your anxiety or adhd and avoiding the stigma of having a
British American Tobacco?
both are paying over 7% dividends right now.
In a normalish world they would be a big buy, but the products...
The smoking lobby was well funded by big business, and argued their adversaries were zealous Puritans who wanted social control. Sound familiar by any chance?
That was like 3 4 months ago so im surprised it took this long
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-01-qa-scientist-chemical-parkinson-disease.html#google_vignette
And all this time I thought cigarettes cause cancer…
I’m soooo dumb…
If the multiple universes people are correct, how did I get stuck in THIS one with those absolute bellends
Quite a few women but no frogs.
Ya know, I don’t mind if these people kill themselves with cancer or measles or industrial accidents or a bridge that collapses or whatever. My only issue is, they’re going to take a lot of non-stupids with them.
Just that the cons outweigh the pros.
"A New Cigarette Filter…made of asbestos"
https://csts.ua.edu/micronite/
(also get off my lawn, &c)
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/29/us/dole-repeats-his-doubts-that-tobacco-is-addictive.html
but knowing that chucklefeck, I'd say it's more likely that they know cigs are bad, and saying that "cigs are an antidote for adhd" in the eugenics sense.
Still unhealthy though.
It has a similar effect.
Nicotine is not recommended, however, because it is so addictive.
https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-016-0911-9
It does have a similar effect to better ADHD drugs like Adderall. That's all I am saying.
Assuming we are not talking about drugs from the street, which have the additional dangers of unknown dose and unknown additional ingredients.
Let’s continue in the other leg of the thread fork-out 🤗