America does something as a world police: you whine America does nothing as a world police: you whine Gazans/hamas do not want peace, they started this conflict, what should the US do, nuke Israel for fighting people who bombed and terrorised them for years? And no, Israel isn't commiting genocide. - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

air-tale.bsky.social • 33 days ago

America does something as a world police: you whine
America does nothing as a world police: you whine
Gazans/hamas do not want peace, they started this conflict, what should the US do, nuke Israel for fighting people who bombed and terrorised them for years?
And no, Israel isn't commiting genocide.

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4thwallguide.bsky.social•33 days ago

It's a busy day today 🫠
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4thwallguide.bsky.social•33 days ago

Nuking zionists in occupied Palestine would only further hurt Palestinians. You're a psychopath for even suggesting that.

carcosacosmos.bsky.social•33 days ago

Going to need you to look up the Nakba before you tell other people who started this conflict

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

Islamists however started exterminating non-muslims, and especially jews since Muhammad's supposed lifetime in the late 600s, according to present day hadiths and the quran, and there are hundreds of fatwas calling for exterminating all jews.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

"Palestinian" wasn't an identity until the late 1960s.
But if you want to go back truly to the start; the middle east was at constant wars since it was populated, that's how history works.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

I know about it, and that wasn't what started the conflict, also a curious starting point considering it was 3 just years after ww2 in which islamist groups in palestine and most arab countries supported the nazis and were exterminating jews even before.

donquibrote.bsky.social•33 days ago

This is not an example of America doing nothing as world police. We actively send Israel billions of dollars in aid and weapons which allow them to continue the genocide. If we told Israel the air would stop until a cease fire, a cease fire would happen in days

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

BUT THEY AREN'T COMMITING GENOCIDE
and ceasefire agreements are worthless islamist powers in the region have been attacking Israel since the star, actually also using foreign aid from the UN and taking even charity money and hamas is in control and is extorting palestinians with foreign money

charleswitherspoon.bsky.social•33 days ago

You are lower than shit

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

No, I am just not jumping on narrattives. Read my other replies around here.

charleswitherspoon.bsky.social•33 days ago

Those replies are even worse

leftwardswing.bsky.social•33 days ago

This you with the bigotry aimed at Muslims? Are you sure that you're on the right site?

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mattsmithereens.bsky.social•33 days ago

So how and "why" did Hamas start this conflict? Explain like I'm 5. I'll wait

Hint: it started long before 2023.

Also, if 100k dead Gazans (half women and children) doesn't meet your criteria, I'd hate to see what you consider a genocide.

History will judge you to be a ghoul

hymnoptera.bsky.social•33 days ago

Tell me, why did Hamas kill, rape and kidnap Israelis.

4thwallguide.bsky.social•33 days ago

Regrettably tagging yet another anti Palestinian account.
@mommunism.bsky.social
@arielgordon.bsky.social

hymnoptera.bsky.social•33 days ago

Islamists hung communists from electric poles in Tehran yet people like you suck up to them

4thwallguide.bsky.social•33 days ago

You're really doubling down on genocide denial? Keep skeeting through it homie. You're doing great.

hymnoptera.bsky.social•33 days ago

Thanks

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

Hamas continued this conflict because islam dogmatically advocates for the extermination of non-muslims, and has suras saying that all jews will be killed by the hands of muslims. Here is the hamas covenant with their mission statements: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

Genocide is an attempt to fully eridicate an ethnic or cultural group. That's not the present case.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

The casualties are high, not 100k but 45-50k, out of around 1,5 million ppl.
That's war, and Israel did commit warcrimes. However that isn't genocide, and hamas did try to maximise civilian casualties on both sides because they have media and narrative majority and get more funding trough it.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

But you are not 5 years old.
And sure, we can go back to the 700s when Muhammad ordered the extermination of locla jews and made narratives about the inferiority of all non-arabs and non-muslims, and how and why they are inferior and why they should be extorted, enslaved and killed by muslims.

jesperpersson.bsky.social•33 days ago

Oh so it's the Palestinians fault for being prisoners for 58 years, they could just have given up resisting? Got It! And it's not genocide if you don't kill all of them! Got It!

4thwallguide.bsky.social•33 days ago

77 years in May
https://www.mei.edu/events/nakba-and-palestinian-refugees-75-years-why-they-still-matter

jesperpersson.bsky.social•33 days ago

Sorry about underestimating the length of the genocide and what exactly Israel learned about WWII.

4thwallguide.bsky.social•33 days ago

No need for apologies! The racist white supremacist empire relies on miseducation and withholding knowledge. I'm always happy to share and learn with folks who also seek the truth.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

Then why don't you tell folks about what islam says about whites, blacks and jews?

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

They weren't and aren't prisoners, they can get Israeli citizenship, Yemen was given to them, Egypt, Lebanon, SauA are all options for them. And they aren't resisting, they are attacking and actively try to commit genocide. And yes, genocide has a definition, that's how words and legal terms work.

assassincat.bsky.social•33 days ago

With democrats like you who needs republicans?

ahjayzis.bsky.social•33 days ago

Arming a genocidal ethnostate to the teeth is not "doing nothing"

tunaghost.bsky.social•33 days ago

that classic satanist individualism: supporting Israel unconditionally

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

read my other replies

tunaghost.bsky.social•33 days ago

juice doesn’t seem worth the squeeze

novapsyche444.bsky.social•32 days ago

Israel is absolutely committing genocide. Of the 5 criteria set out in the Genocide Convention, Israel is violating the first 3. Forced starvation satisfies the third stipulation on its own.

Genocide scholars say it's genocide.
Amnesty Int'l & Human Rights Watch say it's genocide.

It's genocide.

air-tale.bsky.social•29 days ago

A.I.s own branches opposed their genocide claims
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1bnh8rf/the_actual_data_for_trucks_entering_gaza_prior/
And no, israel didn't starve anyone, checking trucks for arms trafficking and waiting isn't forced starvation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1bnh8rf/the_actual_data_for_trucks_entering_gaza_prior/

novapsyche444.bsky.social•29 days ago

3/ Our own government concluded that Israel was hindering aid from entering Gaza, of which ProPublica reported. Sec. of State Blinken took this info and stuffed it, taking instead to lying to Congress when pressed on this very issue. He LIED TO CONGRESS about this.

air-tale.bsky.social•25 days ago

Yeah, slowing down traffic for border checks and blocking fuel transports is hindering foreign aid, but it kills no one and it is most definitely not starvation like you claimed.

novapsyche444.bsky.social•29 days ago

2/ Amos Goldberg also says that Israel ‘undoubtedly’ is committing genocide.

At no point would the ICC have been able to issue its warrants for Netanyahu & Gallant for forced starvation were there not evidence to that fact. Even in Dec 2023, such evidence was collated into SA's brief to the ICJ.

novapsyche444.bsky.social•29 days ago

You're quoting from a Destiny community? You think that's a worthwhile authority on the subject?

At least 4 genocide scholars have stated that Israel is committing the crime of crimes. Raz Segal came to that conclusion in Oct 2023. Omer Bartov first said ethnic cleansing but changed his mind.

air-tale.bsky.social•29 days ago

No, they aren't commiting genocide unless you are considering hamas' direct membership itself a religious group, though the prisoner exchanges go against that too.

air-tale.bsky.social•29 days ago

You are missing the preamble in article 2: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such

novapsyche444.bsky.social•29 days ago

No, I've taken that into consideration, as have numerous experts. The part you may be missing is "in whole or IN PART".

Also, the dolus specialis appears to have been met, again relying upon the assessment by actual scholars in the field.

Have you been following this at all closely?

novapsyche444.bsky.social•29 days ago

No, the Palestinian people are considered an ethnic group under international law. Otherwise, the case before the ICJ last January would have been thrown out on that technicality. Did you follow the arguments that were heard before the ICJ? Did you read the briefs?

air-tale.bsky.social•25 days ago

I did read it, but israel isn't trying to genocide palestinians, they provide for camps and their militia have actually escorted and protected civil caravan because they were killed by hamas o and provided at times also medical aid. The accusations of genocide solely are based on the bombardments.

mattivated.bsky.social•33 days ago

"they started this conflict"

Palestinians didn't start the conflict. Europeans went there and took their land and homes by forcing them to leave and killing Palestinians and taking their home

mixxipop.bsky.social•33 days ago

you seriously need to go back to the history books and completely rethink your world view

cookedazuredemon.bsky.social•33 days ago

Who wouldn't you sacrifice for Israel?

aclevernickname.bsky.social•33 days ago

I think for them, Trump and Mama Bear.

arodenite51.bsky.social•33 days ago

Yes. They are. There's no difference between you and a holocaust denier.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

No, they aren't. And there is: I know history and don't accept narratives alone, but actually bother to look shit up.

arodenite51.bsky.social•33 days ago

If that were true then you would have seen the majority of Human rights organizations as well as the U.N have determined it to be a genocide. Genocide denier theres no difference at all.

queerthing.bsky.social•33 days ago

we're arming the genocide, idiot, that's 'world police' shit, you're just describing world police shit. We should stop.

nihilism.bsky.social•33 days ago

Fuck off racist shit stain.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Muhammad%27s_White_Complexion
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Race_and_Tribe

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

I am opposing a theocratic militia and their narratives and propaganda, because I am pro-democracy and anti-autocracy, and actually one of my criticisms toward islam and islamist is their racism, as islam is an arab/white-supremacist religion advocating for black slavery and inferiority.

felixforrester.bsky.social•32 days ago

Gods what a dumb cunt. You could be looking at skull beach from Terminator and be like 'genocide is a very specific term and also they had it coming anyway even if it was'

air-tale.bsky.social•31 days ago

Power-wise people get and are the government. Pretending they aren't just results in everyone constantly siding with extortive dictatorships

air-tale.bsky.social•31 days ago

Well, no, I can clearly say that Israel isn't commiting genocide, there is no "even if". And I can also tell you that not occupying Gaza will result hamas continuing to bomb and kill civilians within 6 months, then Israel also shooting their standing, racking up even more in net casualties.

felixforrester.bsky.social•31 days ago

You can clearly go fuck yourself. I'm not entertaining anything after "Israel isn't committing a genocide". Grow a pair of eyeballs or a heart, maybe both.

redmcredred.bsky.social•33 days ago

Wow... No

autochthonia.bsky.social•33 days ago

Read a history book that wasn't written by the State Department, I'm begging you.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SATIidG9v_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikuaFbSAJYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCwky_g8Tfw&list=PLDAzS1l-IdfHK5a5dMrHMi3iUtvl-6Kip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCa5a5ikJgI&list=PLDAzS1l-IdfE9osmdQRiyKnHJtnwoYLb5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCUxTFt8pB0&list=PLDAzS1l-IdfH9puBs-pZV8KC20FtM5DBj
https://wikiislam.net/

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

This is a present conflict, and it doesn't counts as history, nor are US government sources my only ones. You should face a more complex reality, and look up definitions, ideological statements and even sources from sides you don't agree with.

tonypharaohno.bsky.social•33 days ago

No one asked America to be world police you disingenuous fuck. You made yourselves that, fuck you!

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

Similar issue with BLM: in islamist countries racism is just as bad and due to no rule-of-law and authoritarianism, even worse than in America. And islam (sahih bukhari and sahih muslim) dogmatically say that all blacks are destined for hell and to be enslaved by arabs.

tonypharaohno.bsky.social•33 days ago

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4thwallguide.bsky.social•33 days ago

You can always spot the secret racist because they are too fucking stupid.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

Also I am afraid you don't know what happens to trans folk in islamist countries and what fatwas our out on the lmbtq community: we are to be tossed off high buildings or burnt alive.

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

I am not American. And right now you are omplaining about them not acting as world police.

rhealicious.bsky.social•33 days ago

Fuck you

air-tale.bsky.social•33 days ago

Fuck dictators, fuck regressives, and fuck superficiality.

rhealicious.bsky.social•33 days ago

What the hell is that supposed to mean in this context