I didn’t say they couldn’t also be in the top 8. The answer is 1. The answer for the B1G is 5. - ThreadSky

nwobuck.bsky.social • 50 days ago

I didn’t say they couldn’t also be in the top 8.

The answer is 1.

The answer for the B1G is 5.

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Riiiggghhtt...okay so yea im gonna assume you're trying to be funny here. And it's not landing. Post regular season ranking by the CFP Committee is a completely different discussion, which doesn't actually address my original talking points were but okay.

That being said...

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

You cant have a real discussion about the prior CFP Committee rankings w/o discussing NIL, transfer portal, recruiting, SOS, Margin of W/L and all the nuances associated with the decades worth of dried up tears from non SEC teams about their ability to play competitively against the SEC teams.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

So if you want to go down that road, i mean we can. But it's already heavily documented as to why the CFP Committee and NCAA have slowly, by in large orchestrated, a more "level playing field" for the less competitive conferences. Most teams in the Big Ten do not play have a competitive schedule. 🤷🏾‍♀️

nwobuck.bsky.social•50 days ago

You only play 8 conference games and a late-season gimme. Stop.

jonathancosmo.bsky.social•50 days ago

Arguing with an SEC sycophant is a fruitless exercise. They will never admit their precious conference is an overrated, overhyped fraud no matter how many facts you give them. There is always an excuse for their failings other field.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

Lol i dont make the rules man. These are basic observations.

The wins,timelines, and lawsuits are well documented. I just need yall Hans to own up as to why we are where we are today. Most SEC fans can own when we play like trash. But the vitriol yall have for the SEC is just well goofy.

nwobuck.bsky.social•50 days ago

Do you count yourself among those who can admit when your team plays like trash? Because *you* brought up injuries as an excuse.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

Lol I do, and I brought up the injuries because most ppl slander the SEC with broad sweeping generalizations w/o accounting for totality of the game and teams.

That's the difference between most SEC folks and much of the arguments from non-SEC conferences. History & Analytics matter.

nwobuck.bsky.social•50 days ago

Tell me about all the injuries on other teams. I know you considered that.

Start with Ohio State’s offensive line.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

Lol literally No. Cause i think OSU is about the only Big Ten team that actually is strong. They were impacted negatively, was evident in the Michigan game (in addition to the mental trial of 4yr consecutive Ls).

If you are speaking about yesterday, well the OL was adjusted and did fine imho.

jonathancosmo.bsky.social•50 days ago

You literally speak the opposite of reality. SEC apologists live in a bubble where losses are never their fault and wins are due to their overwhelming superiority. This year is case in point.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

Nah its just your hazy judgement of the SEC that clouds your ability to have sound discourse. Unfortunately thats common from SEC Hans. We def lose and have bad games. Only reason we are on the defensive is b/c... well yall cry alot and refuse to just own why yall hate on us. Weird energy btw.

jonathancosmo.bsky.social•50 days ago

And i love how you say “we” as if the SEC is some sort of collective team. The SEC is a manufactured collection of college with varying degrees of athletic prowess. A real college football fan cheers for a team. That is the “we.” The fact you identify your fandom to an abstract entity is telling.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

Its literally regional. It only recently started to change after having the expansions but its still ..Regional. Like do we not have maps?

So really you've answered my question. It is a lack of acknowledgement or disdain towards Southern football and by extension sports culture.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

If you dont get it thats one thing, but having lived in many regions the culture in the south surrounding football is very different compared to others

I love my team obviously But there is a sense of unity that expands across a ton of lines, culture, ethnic, racial, regional... we can go there but

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

That's a much more extensive convo. I'd gladly travel that deep dive with you but like...

To keep it extremely simple.

"Full-On Rivals in House But Support Your Neighbor & Represent Us Well When You Leave Out That Door"

Not everyone abides by that now but that's essentially what it is

jonathancosmo.bsky.social•50 days ago

i did answer the question. The southern regional college scene is unique and a true part of Americana. And it has been for decades. But the SEC’s domineering presence has ruined it because southern football has been hijacked by the disease of the SEC. You created your own demise.

jonathancosmo.bsky.social•50 days ago

You all brought it upon yourselves. College football was always about teams. The SEC conference is good because of a few great teams. The rest of the country loathes the SEC and its “fans” because it ruins the essence of what college football has always been about. You reap what you sow.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

Please elaborate how we brought it on ourselves? Cause its giving...

A.) Ppl are mad about a 1930s post-depression conf establishment regulations

B.) Ppl simply have a disdain for southern football culture or just refuse to acknowledge the impact it has in the development of our talent pool

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

Or

C.) Ppl have just have been upset b/c ... i mean we just have more Nattys.

D.) All of the above???

What is the SEC doing that makes everyone else loathe us besides historically winning and the level of competition that we gain from our own southern region?

Fr, like what is the reason

nwobuck.bsky.social•50 days ago

C) This has some merit but largely because the bulk of those natties come from eras when even a small of bias in favor of SEC teams impacted the *opportunity* for other teams to win.

nwobuck.bsky.social•50 days ago

A) I believe the point was that SEC fans are the only ones who unironically chant the name of their conference.

B) This is an invented issue. No one has a “disdain” for southern football in general.

hearmieout.bsky.social•50 days ago

So ppl are upset because of unity? And pride in coming from a dominating conference?

Its hardly invented. Again we can go there but thats an incredible deep dive on southern football culture that I just dont think most are ready for.

Perfect Ex.) 1988 ND vs Miami - Catholics vs Convicts

jonathancosmo.bsky.social•50 days ago

100%. Until the early 2000s nobody chanted conference slogans until some insecure wannabes figured out the SEC bandwagon could inflate their sense of frontrunner fandom. Add in the ESECPN factor. The inevitable backlash followed. As is the Schadenfreude true college football fans feel right now.

jonathancosmo.bsky.social•50 days ago

“Southern college culture.” You equate this with the SEC. So 16 colleges in a manufactured entity (which is a pale imitation of whatever it was in the 1930s) are what constitute the regional identity. I am sure the rest of the region’s non SEC school fans would love this perspective.

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