As an American, my best advice is to physically speak to people. Engage them. Musk and other oligarchs control social media/tech/the media. Social media will not help you keep your democracy. 🫂💜
It's over for us down here. Hoping Canada can find a way forward.
Yep - I read and posted about it back in fall 2023 on the other place- it's the IDU's wet dream and Harper heads the IDU. Poilievre is a useful idiot like Trump. Sadly MagaMaple has already drunk the Kool aid and an equal portion of 🇨🇦s are drowning in apathy. Does not bode well for our future.
And here my stupid American brain thought Canada would be a safe haven from this shit, it just feels like there’s no real way out. I think I might stick around for the holidays but after that I’m done with all this shit, I’m so tired of knowing the world will only get worse.
The Liberals are drifting right and the NDP doesn't have a rudder. We can't leave it up to politics. We need to organise at the community level despite our politics
The Liberals are a center right party who take their orders directly from Canadian oligarchs.
Companies are calling the shots and workers are suffering. The CPC are bringing in Trump-light and Canada has nothing to counter the Alt-Right.
A lot of American people didn't even hear about it, and a lot who did, didn't have the time or energy to read it fast enough. I'm still struggling and want to rage.
Millions of people in America have no clue what Project 2025 is. I didn't hear about it at all until about two months ago. I think there was a strong push to get people to dismiss it as misinformation or fake. I tried to tell hundreds of people about it, and they wouldn't listen.😟
I read it and I'm totally shook. As a retiree, what can I do but inform as many in my community who will listen. Everything is at stake and at the mercy of power hungry, greed driven U. S. oligarchs, Russian assets, white supremacists, and billionaires.
Empires fall every 250 years. America is on year 248. Too many things have happened to put a stop to it now. Not enough people were willing to do the right thing to save our democracy when it would have mattered about 100 years ago. Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
Tell me thats not all linked to his IDU group. Sure Steve! He's a subversive, and his org is a threat to democracy here as well. Why is the Trudeau govt pussyfooting around now? Is the question. If we tiptoe around thr issue like Biden did, we lost Canada as well, more pressure on others
I am Canadian and it is horrifying... sadly far too many Canadians are leaning right- It is coming here! Get ready to fight! I am in Alberta and we have a 'she one' here (I will not honour her with calling her a witch)
Doug ford, the drug dealing, college drop out now leading Canada’s largest, richest and most diverse province, described himself as a loyal trumpeter. And now dougie the druggie wants to buy votes with $200. Happy days!
If you listen closely you can hear how Pierre loves to plagiarize entire passages from Trump’s speeches. He idolizes his strategy and his cult following. Portions of Project 2025 will be a shoo-in if PP wins the Federal election.
Ten years ago (before cut) I could get CBC on my cable package, one of my three primary channels (with PBS and C-Span) and I learned about evil Stephan Harper. While before my time, the Tommy Douglas rendition of "Mouseland" is the Canada I like to remember. https://greatcanadianspeeches.ca/2021/08/29/tommy-douglas-mouseland-circa-1930s/
Really, eh?
Whenever I travel or run into a Canadian, I always ask if they learned about Mouseland in government class. Surprisingly, many don't know.
Tommy Douglas is in my top five, with JFK's "Iche bein an Berliner."
I had no idea they endorsed that! Well then. Glad I never voted for Harper and will never vote Poilievre!
I read it, as well as 'Project 47' on their website (I know, I know) and was disgusted.
I am very, very worried.“We need a change” is one rallying cry of the Conservatives. Why?“Carbon tax bad” yet they cannot articule why that might be other than they have to pay it. Conservatives have been campaigning for over a year.Huge amounts of misinformation flooding us. Compliant media.
🇨🇦I did too! The panic was real! Realize also the Plymouth Brethren and Raphael Cruz South Baptist Conferences are connected financing Poilievre to help the White Christian Nationslist movement in North America. They want to govern as one Nation “under their God!”
No. We have paused immigration for two years and the Safe Third Country agreement will act as a barrier to claim refugee status. The Canadian government made it abundantly clear before the election we are not their safe house.
i am sure they'll get in cuz they'll qualify on the points system and many can use their wealth and NAFTA rules to be legit business-related moves - not to mention that white english speakers who have cooperative friends in canada have the easiest time doing illegal immigration
i think ur mixing refugees with non-refugee immigration as well as how easy it will be for usa travellers to just stay here illegally (if they choose to do that and they may)
Unfortunately this was my people’s choice; not that I personally chose it. It was known by so many people but nobody truly read through it. My mother always told me that fascism needs to be stomped out; and this is how it starts.
The collective majority of the populous seems to have voted for it; so we’re screwed no matter where or how you slice it. Cheers to oblivion, you know?
That is what I told my wife: Trump loses, we might see normalcy return in 10-20 years. If he wins, we will be lucky to see it in our lifetimes.
She tends to run on hope and optimism. Sadly, the world and I are more pragmaric. Told her thar Trump had a 1-in-8 chance to win 2016. She rolled her eyes.
In 2020, I told her that if he fails at reelection, he will still be a poison influence on the party for years to come. She rolled her eyes and said he would be abandoned as a failure.
In this election, I told her that he had a good chance at winning again. She rolled her eyes at me again.
You can't think that things can't happen just because you don't want them to. If you close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears, it doesn't stop the bad things from happening. Open eyes and the determination to act are vital on these times.
I’ve read it, frightening shit. The economist magazine reported how all this mass deportation and mass firings of federal employees would tank your economy, but day one stock market made huge gains for the billionaires and millionaires, go figure. But it will lead to a recession and depression.
Sad to say Americans are to lazy to read it. However, there were many groups that put out a series of video to summarize the 900 pages. Hard to break the MAGA cult and too many only cared about the economy.
Harper and Poilievre will endorse anything that will "stick it" to people outside of their own amoral, self-centred, superior, elitist class, and those who don't or can't vote.
I strongly suggest getting word out to flip the officials in your local areas RUN AGAINST THESE BASTARDS. Even a local system collectively can impact their garbage agenda we organize together and make local change by out running the unopposed they can’t win it all if we all RUN
tbh, its usually safe to assume whatever fucked up shit the republicans are doing south of the border, the conservatives follow suit in canada soon after. I still remember one of the idiots wearing a MAGA hat in canada. as a canadian politician.
Oh yeah, her. I remember stumbling across her antics when I was writing the Freedom Convoy Wikipedia article while that whole clusterf**k was ongoing in Ottawa. Yeah, she's far-right alright.
AFAICT there is zero evidence of Poilievre supporting Project 2025. It's like a hallucination of an old person's nostalgic trip.. it makes no sense in today's world. I don't support PP, but he's also not completely insane. E.g. making abortion illegal would never happen in Canada.
I have and it scares me. Hopefully Canada learns from our American friends. We cannot let Putin Puppet Poilievre to become next PM. They must all be exposed.
That project gave me nightmares, America will not accept it, we are prepared but Maga is blind, they will turn on Trump when the light’s finally come on.
Its' free and it's searchable so if you have a pet "thing" it's somewhat easy to find. Hint: looking for Amendments, spell out the number, like "First Amendment" - not 1st.
Project 2025 is a political playbook created by the Heritage Foundation and dozens of other conservative groups, not Trump, who said he disagrees with elements of the effort. There are, however, numerous people involved in Project 2025 who worked in Trump's first administration. - us today
I can't bring myself to read it, I'm way to sad about the election and knew I would recognize their policies as they came out if that orange blob won, so I'll see it soon enough.
Sets your hair on fire. Beyond all the wrecking ball, is the creepy anti woman BS. One kind of family is approved. Working dad, stay-at-home mom with children. Must have children. Great replacement theory, ya know. And religion, religion and more of their kind of religion Only one allowed
Creepiness
Just take a look at the mess that Alberta is becoming. Makes me so sad. The rest of Canada needs to wake up and learn from us. Smith is downright scary and Pollievre is just the same. We must fight back!!
Please do because some of us will be seeking refugee status in your country when it’s too dangerous for us to exist here. I know people don’t like that idea but it’s the way the world works now.
Not sure how many countries are actually accepting Americans as refugees, but I think there are countries that you can just immigrate to. Especially if you have any special skills.
Canadian here, I I read it too! It is terrifying. It is was like Stephen Harper's barbaric cultural hotline grew up and became a thinktank author ... Stuff of nightmares. Poilievre = Trump. 💯
Buzz in parliament is we will get a conservative government. Move to a liberal or NDP province if you can. Our one hope may be Mark Carney who was governor of the bank of canada. Smart fiscally responsible.
I bring up the abortion debate to conservatives in my life and they keep telling me that the courts won’t allow the right to be taken away. That our courts aren’t SCOTUS. I’m not feeling confident about this. I was always apolitical but now I’m trying to learn everything I can about our systems.
Make no mistake, Canada is heading down the same path as the USA. The conservative government wants you to be uninformed,uneducated and follow like sheep.
Project 2025 remind me of the Bible. On the surface, it appears to be a holy document, until you dig in and find the hypocrisies, the horror, the sodomy, the violence, etc., etc.
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It's over for us down here. Hoping Canada can find a way forward.
The Liberals are not drifting right. But we may need a coalition.
Companies are calling the shots and workers are suffering. The CPC are bringing in Trump-light and Canada has nothing to counter the Alt-Right.
You mostly have to be or know a minority to have interest against it.
Although they kinda just gave people bogus explanations to misdirect.
Then you have those who did learn but forgot due to our low critical thinking.
Whenever I travel or run into a Canadian, I always ask if they learned about Mouseland in government class. Surprisingly, many don't know.
Tommy Douglas is in my top five, with JFK's "Iche bein an Berliner."
I read it, as well as 'Project 47' on their website (I know, I know) and was disgusted.
Aussie here, it's a harsh document to read.
All 922 pages...
She tends to run on hope and optimism. Sadly, the world and I are more pragmaric. Told her thar Trump had a 1-in-8 chance to win 2016. She rolled her eyes.
In this election, I told her that he had a good chance at winning again. She rolled her eyes at me again.
I love when the uninformed roll their eyes at those of us paying attention.
It is for a White Supremist Male Christian Society where women don't have many rights, and neither will people of color, or LGBTQ.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jenni-byrne-loblaw-poilievre-trudeau-1.7103373
Terrified
Especially hearing from your new #2 president musk …
Poilievre is terrifying - dead eyes
Great 😬
For the first time, I saw a maga hat today. In Canada.
This can't go unchecked and unnoticed.
https://archive.org/details/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL/mode/1up?view=theater
💔🇨🇦😫🤦♂️
Creepiness
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/agreements/safe-third-country-agreement.html
What is going on is a nightmare .
btw I couldn't find his or that of his advisor' endorsement on the doc you linked. got a page number?
Not sure Margaret Atwood knew she was writing a how-to manual
...what the hell.
Share this video with all your friends, too!
https://boingboing.net/2024/09/25/this-video-explains-project-2025-schoolhouse-rock-style.html
DO NOT let this happen to you!
Signed,
A despondent American
https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained