The moment we allow the government to claim any request is “reasonable” because they say so, we’ve already lost the security the 4th Amendment was designed to provide.
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And even if you argue that some stops are inherently reasonable (like verifying age or citizenship), the reality is that this reasoning has been used time and time again to justify discriminatory practices.
The only group impacted by universal background checks is the law-abiding population. This violates the Second Amendment’s clear directive that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. The government lacks the authority to burden law-abiding citizens for the sake of rules criminals will ignore
Oh, repeating myself makes me wrong twice? Cute, but let me spell it out for you (again): the issue isn’t ID verification itself; it’s how easily it can be abused. History proves “reasonable” checks have been used to disenfranchise voters, target minorities, and justify overreach.
Let’s not pretend this is about protecting voting integrity. ID laws often go hand-in-hand with tactics like purging voter rolls and closing polling places in minority neighborhoods. It’s not about fairness… it’s about control.
So no, ID verification isn’t inherently unconstitutional—but when it becomes a tool for gatekeeping rights, it absolutely violates the spirit of the Constitution. Maybe try engaging with the actual argument instead of playing gotcha games.
Think stop-and-frisk… think ICE checkpoints in immigrant communities… think surveillance programs disproportionately targeting marginalized groups. You might trust the system to wield this power fairly, but history says otherwise.
So sure, reasonableness is part of the conversation—but if you’re going to wave that around, at least recognize how slippery that slope gets when the government is the one deciding what’s “reasonable.” Some of us still value the Constitution as a safeguard, not a suggestion.
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Just want to make sure i understand you that asking for identification to verify citizenship and identity to register to vote is unconstitutional
Let’s not pretend this is about protecting voting integrity. ID laws often go hand-in-hand with tactics like purging voter rolls and closing polling places in minority neighborhoods. It’s not about fairness… it’s about control.