“That’s not ______, it’s just capitalism” has kinda dissolved into a thought-terminating cliché. Like yes, corrupt systems operate within other larger corrupt systems. But contempt for specifics seems dangerous to me. If you want to fight something oppressive, seems worth trying to understand […] - ThreadSky

kissane.mas.to.ap.brid.gy • 53 days ago

“That’s not ______, it’s just capitalism” has kinda dissolved into a thought-terminating cliché.

Like yes, corrupt systems operate within other larger corrupt systems. But contempt for specifics seems dangerous to me. If you want to fight something oppressive, seems worth trying to understand […]

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pbloem.sigmoid.social.ap.brid.gy•52 days ago

@kissane I'm always frustrated by how unspecific it is about the alternatives. Especially on here, half the people talking like this are died-in-the-wool communists, and the other half want a liberal democracy with a bit more financial regulation.

It sounds like the speaker wants to "abolish […]

kissane.mas.to.ap.brid.gy•53 days ago

I was replying to someone and their post disappeared so I will put it here:

I’m sure I’ve said it myself! I get the frustration. I guess the question is whether any given framing provides useful insight into the sub-systems.

glyph.mastodon.social.ap.brid.gy•52 days ago

@kissane I, too, have probably said this myself on a couple of occasions but that just makes me hate it more; it's a contagious bad habit! "Capitalism" in this sense is an interlocking internetwork of systems that is so dense and complex that it encompasses nearly every aspect of human […]

glyph.mastodon.social.ap.brid.gy•52 days ago

@kissane and, bonus frustration: a lot of the times the people saying this are not saying anything specifically germane to "capitalism" as opposed to any other system, and what they are saying is "within any society where anyone is ever incentivized to do anything by any metric which may become […]

kissane.mas.to.ap.brid.gy•53 days ago

(I’ve been grumbling over this inside my heart for months, but seeing an instance of it slide by on the timeline let the grumbling out.)

shauna.social.coop.ap.brid.gy•52 days ago

@kissane my issue with enshittification is "it's just monopoly exploitation of consumers" but to be fair 'enshittification' is much catchier. Still I wish the terminology that caught on had clearer callbacks to antitrust precisely because I want interested people to have better access to […]

hakona.im.alstadheim.no.ap.brid.gy•46 days ago

@kissane No point in fixing anything, It'll be ok once capitalism is gone. Also, capitalism (whatever they mean by that) is not going anywhere, so we'll just do some shit-posts.

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