i'm sure silksong is gonna be good, but my one fear is that they double down on super hard soulsy boss fights. the focus on those is maybe my least favorite thing about modern, post-HK metroidvanias. i never beat HK despite loving it because i eventually just got tired of retrying a late game boss - ThreadSky

ponett.dog • 5 days ago

i'm sure silksong is gonna be good, but my one fear is that they double down on super hard soulsy boss fights. the focus on those is maybe my least favorite thing about modern, post-HK metroidvanias. i never beat HK despite loving it because i eventually just got tired of retrying a late game boss

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jadesapphira.bsky.social•5 days ago

Shoutout to bloodstained ritual of the nights final boss.
i gave up on it cause i didnt feel like grinding

vittmaddy.bsky.social•4 days ago

Oh, that's unfortunate :(

toblo1.bsky.social•5 days ago

I beat Hollow Knight but had to stop during the bonus fight for Grimm Troupe and pretty much all of Godseeker.

Hope none of that leaks into Silksong's main game. That stuff was optional for a reason.

ben-allison.bsky.social•4 days ago

I got 100% on everything, but I got the normal ending, instead of the two extras cause I couldn't be bothered to spend all that time memorizing the boss.

ponett.dog•5 days ago

i think this is part of the reason why animal well really hits for me. it puts the focus on exploration and puzzles rather than trying to be a 2d soulslike, unlike many of its contemporaries

turquoisephoenix.bsky.social•5 days ago

I absolutely love that Animal Well's most memorable boss "fights" involve running for your dear life away from an unkillable force that can follow you for the entire map (with "teleport to the warp room and wait a bit" being a viable strategy for one of them)

frexelnexen.bsky.social•5 days ago

I feel the same way, yeah!

cyrisus.bsky.social•5 days ago

This, and the overwhelmingly well done atmosphere just made Animal Well click way more for me...

twilightvulpine.bsky.social•4 days ago

Same. As someone who much prefers Koji Igarashi's philosophy of rewarding exploration and experimentation with power and letting the player get crazy overpowered, most modern metroidvanias kinda let me down. You can collect every single power-up yet boss fights are still by the skin of your teeth.

nineboat.bsky.social•4 days ago

I am 30 to 40 years old and i do not have the patience to do my 30th run back.

sylvyspritii.bsky.social•4 days ago

Was it the Watcher Knights?

ponett.dog•4 days ago

sure was!

sylvyspritii.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yeah that's very relatable, I was stuck on that boss for around 9 hours, the game stopped being fun for me there

Eventually I came back to grind for a weapon upgrade, but even then, it wasn't satisfying to beat them, bosses after that one were easier again, it felt like an unfair difficulty spike

rabbit.pizza•5 days ago

They just end up reminding me of the secret dungeon/boss in cave story except they're required to beat the game

baph.xyz•5 days ago

I had the exact same experience.

cryptidcuisine.bsky.social•4 days ago

my sister 100%ed the game but never beat the final boss. everything else just broke her

mysteriousgrayart.bsky.social•5 days ago

Maybe this is just the dusty old fart in me talking, but half the fun of a Metroidvania for me is beating it as quickly as possible. I can't imagine that being very fun at all if the boss fights are deliberately drawn out and frustrating.

sarrakitty.bsky.social•5 days ago

I'm im pretty much the opposite camp, or at least, I like those fights, I think playing through Nine Sols really has put me in the "hard game I can smash myself against until I conquer it" mood, though Nine sols' combat is quite different. I don't *think* they're gonna do parry combat in Silksong?

sarrakitty.bsky.social•5 days ago

Completely agree about Animal Well though, I got it as a gift last year and it was such a nice chill break from hard combat that has become the Metroidvania genre norm, I really ought to go back to it to try and uncover more secrets after "beating" it. Really love how mysterious it is.

toblo1.bsky.social•5 days ago

Animal Well and Void Stranger are sitting in my Steam Library/Backlog for when I *really* wanna break my brain on a puzzle game (preferably with an IRL friend).

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