The whole issue of The Wall is performative as hell, of course. Most illegal immigration is people overstaying legit visas. But because, whenever someone brings up the numbers, they show footage of the border, people think that's what illegal immigration is.
Guess who’s going to be stuck with a whole bunch of empty rental property when deportation begins? The pig landlords who voted for trump! Can’t wait to see their properties empty, worthless, and bankrupt.
Trump's Wife is an illegal who BROKE her Visa, but NONE of them care. An if they're so bad, why did Florida's Government BEG them to stay? An why do Farmers say their business will be BANKRUPT or CRIPPLED without them?
Also know they commit less than 0.1% of crime and violent crime!!
Yep! Yet NONE of them care. Yet we KNOW what would happen if Musk donated a Billion to Kamala and was out in charge of Government waste for her, despite a Government organization already existing for this!!
But Crime, Immorality, and Corruption are GREAT when Republicans!
deporting illegal immigrants and closing our borders will cost billions in resources, lost revenue, increased prices, etc. Welfare fraud will not go down because it is not illegal immigrants taking advantage of our social programs.
One of the think tanks posited that it will take $200,000 to deport each individual! That, plus trump’s additional tax cuts to the rich should crush the United States for several generations! The debt load will be astronomical.
Donald convinced enough people that it's the democrats that screwed them. He blames, and they believe that the efforts made by the Democrats to improve the lives of Americans are the cause of their woes, right down to the price of eggs.
If you have enough money, you should get through this.
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There is only one issue Steve. Democrats have definitely reached a stage in which they just defend the basics without taking any risks to actually create a system where people can live better off.
The risk of being called socialists seems to be more dangerous than letting fascists rise.
Perfectly said, thank you. Now, if you can reduce it to a 5 second sound bite which is about as long as MAGA idiots have an attention span for, or publish it in a coloring book so they can “read”, it’ll reach the crowd that needs to hear it.
I'll tell you a little secret. I live in a small town that's deeply red and voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Half the town is on the dole. And it's not immigrants. It's the white trump supporters.
It is ALL about RACISM & the fear, hate & envy of idiots & hypocrites who can't tale responsibility for their pathetic lives & need to blame someone else for their failures.
True, it is ACTUALLY evil to have more money than you, your children, your children’s children and so on can EVER spend and to sit around not doing everything you can do to make society better. When that $ amt is no longer even meaningful other than a number on a screen ticking up and up by the hour
Scott Bessent, Treasury Secretary nominee, responded to Sen. Bernie Sanders’ question by stating that he did not believe the Federal Minimum Wage needed to be increased from $7.25 per hour (that’s $15,080 annually!).
WTF is wrong with these greedy, soulless billionaires?
I am on Social Security (SS) and Medicare. The monthly premium for the latter is $174, which is deducted from my SS. I carry an Aetna Medicare PPO Advantage plan that costs me zero.
I worked 4 years past my normal retirement age, so I receive an extra 8% per month for each year.
Trump is not going to renew the AOC, which ends in 2025. It provides us credits towards purchasing health insurance. I’m retired too, not collecting my SS until 67. I’m 62, retired when I was 58. My insurance costs me $1,084 a month! I can’t wait until I’m 65 so I can start Medicare!
It's weird that people get mad about undocumented immigrants taking jobs and not about AI taking jobs. Like I guess we're protecting the machines at the expense of actual humans now?
fwiw, I think there's a lot less support for AI than you'd think - it's just that the people who *really* like AI have a complete stranglehold on US media and are forcing the idea that it's at least arguably popular to farm investment.
Agree, wait til Maga has to pay $8 for a cucumber and $17 for strawberries. Who do they think are harvesting the food?
Agree that hardened violent criminals need to be deported, nothing hard ab getting behind that, but the issue of immigration and why it is so broken is a lot more complicated.
Couldn’t agree more. What I wonder is what percentage of the MAGA leadership group really believes the nonsense they promulgate? I suspect not too many. It’s the usual playbook. Unscrupulous people attract immoral people who just want to get their share, regardless of who suffers.
Just beware that undocumented immigrants are usually far, very extreme right wing voters. They flip elections once they become documented and vote for the ones that denied them fundamental rights.
And the new treasury secretary declares $7.25 is up to states and he won’t raise the federal minimum wage which totally makes your point. Listen up people!!
Everyone thinks it’s Hispanic but no it’s all illegals from everywhere. If you help them you go also revoke people citizenship as leverage. Going to be ugly. All I can do is vote after that I read and try to manage through life. I feel that the Plague is coming again
So I was taking codes construction class cosmetically and residential so the Russian speaking but perfect English got 30 minutes extra because time on the coding state test than any of us WTF he said he could be because we are stupid to fall for that. What a prickkk. Get me Tiger 🐅
Wait untol they find no produce or vegetables ....they will rethink those immigrants who will find work elsewhere-after realizing the error you think those immigrants will come back and pick what nourishes their opposer's?
I wouldn't feed who hate me either .
I don’t care if there’s undocumented immigrants getting benefits. It’s not like my taxes are ever going to go down, and I’d rather have the money go towards lifting people up then to whatever the hell else taxes are used for like making bombs
Here comes the real kick. When MAGA finishes with the Latinos. Where do you think they will focus their attention next? Black people. If that fails which it will, they end up turning on their own. It becomes about classicism. There is no one rich whites hate more than poor white trash.
Not only do they not receive Social Security, but they have to make up SS numbers to get a job and pay into the system, never able to receive any benefits. To the tune of billions of dollars. Which the SS system then uses as funding.
Focusing on illegals instead of focusing on what really ails America, is s.o.p. for the Great Fascist Party. These people work and stay under the radar,because they don't want to go back to the unlivable conditions where they come from. They earn low wages,and do all the things that Americans won't.
Plus, the corporate people are seeking out immigrants for employment. In my part of NC, a lot of citizens cannot get hired because they can’t pass drug tests! Corporate america is playing people. They are too filled with hate to see it.
tRump is literally following Hitler's playbook on everything.
The concentration camps started out as holding areas for the mass deportations he was conducting.
I’m new to bluesky but I agree 100%! People need to wake up that we r just their commodity that helps to keep them rich and us poor. They keep sucking everything away but not too much bec then they won’t have us either.
20 years ago a distant relative had to get a Drivers License In UT passed law to prove citizenship She moved to UT in 1920’s got married to U.S. Citizen yet didn’t think to get citizenship. She had children grand & even great grandchildren Dead now but she’d be deported. Waste of money
they get sick. they go the the emergency room. Hospitals a]won’t going to turn them away. They can have their kids in schools. they can get food stamps. they can get aid for dependent children. This is from the GAO 2024
Republicans are hypocrites because they don’t talk about gun violence. And Democrats are so stupid because they let Republicans dominate the conversation.
It's not just that the rich keep wages low, they also force up the cost of property, education and healthcare, even general taxation. The more the super rich take the less is left for everything else, so the cost of everything rises. We need to tax the rich and use the money for public services
I am a registered Democrat from NY🇺🇸. Is it ok if I illegally snuck into Germany 🇩🇪, France 🇫🇷 or Australia 🇦🇺 and DEMANDED equal status as a legal, hardworking, tax paying citizen of those countries? to be given free room & board, clothing & food allowance, education!?
I’m just over here wondering who’ll they’ll blame next for why the poor are poor if they deport all the “illegal” Mexican immigrants. Will they set their sights on the Chinese, Africans…who’s next? People better pay attention
Yep. They are. It isn’t just about babies. Young women are more likely to be educated, home owners, and are less interested in romantic relationships. They see that as an attack on the patriarchy and the family unit.
In my mind, Trump is scapegoating undocumented immigrants the same way Hitler scapegoated the Jews. There is no mass genocide planned -- at least I hope not -- but other than that, I see it as very similar.
Tale as old as...well, we all should know by now. The divisions work. Always have. Can't let the masses know that they really do have power in their number. Let's make them fight each other while we keep raking in that money and power. This is regardless of the blue or red side you subscribe to.
Agreed. We are choosing to NOT document people. You want to be here and contribute to society? Great! Here you go. Undocumented humans are not a problem or THE problem.
Tim Weis spoke on this exact topic, giving the example of poverty stricken community’s in New Orleans and their behavior after hurricane Catrina. It’s worth a listen. Nothing has changed: Divide and Conquer is still the preferred strategy for the 1%.
Spot on, same bullshit being used by the conservatives in Australia and around the world. Utah Philips described this years ago on one of his live albums where he talked about who controlled the blame factor.
The deportation thing is a distraction. A smoke screen. While we’re all busy fighting amongst ourselves, the real work of dismantling democracy is being done behind the curtain.
I spent six months traveling in Mexico and met lots of Mexicans who were big fans of the USA. Many of them said that they had lived in the USA for years and eventually got homesick and returned to Mexico. They were ALL illegal while in the US and had no regrets. The hate is manufactured.
Naturalized friends are planning within 5 years to return to their countries of origin. Basically, if they didn’t have kids in school, they’d already be gone. Not uprooting kids important. But, they’ve just had enough of America & what’s happening here. Sad, really. Very nice, productive people. 😞
It will tank the USA economy & have worldwide repercussions. We seem to be headed for a depression to rival the Great Depression of the 1930s. Won’t affect the millionaires & billionaires at all.
I agree with the depression except for the worldwide repercussions and that it won't affect millionaires or billionaires...have you noticed how they made there money...not really essential is it
If they were serious, they would crack down on any businesses caught using undocumented workers... Instead companies get a slap on the wrist and the government looks the other way.
It was never about the jobs, it's always been about manufactured outrage
It's all about collapsing Social Security and Medicare so it can be privatized. It will be the greatest pump n dump scheme in human history.
And we will all pay for it.
If republican administrations would quit "borrowing" from SS and perhaps pay back the trillion plus (plus interest) that issue could disappear. (and maybe some (a lot) could be convinced to NOT vote against their own interests)
Many of those I graduated w/ from HS had a difficult path in life. I get it, but they made the bad choices starting in HS; Barely graduating, marrying a loser, etc. Watching them at a distance support Trump, expecting a new golden age and they are going to be betrayed. AND they will deserve it
Now is the time to meet your neighbors. Shop as local as possible and speak and listen to as many people as you can. Make connections. Eat right, learn new skills and get healthy fitness wise. Change is slow but people are now awake. It will come. We are not alone
💯 #Solidarity #EatTheRich
The officious legalistic settler immigrants are the problematic ones. They impose violence, land theft and economic class war on the first peoples and indigenous who have lived here since time immemorial. They can get out of the land. Others: share, take care, be welcome.
Yes! The working class/ working poor believed the maga blame game and voted in the billionaires!! 😳 This needs to be on a 24-7-365 loop to hopefully reach the brainwashed masses believing the continuously hateful maga immigrant messaging.
How about this: It's just a distraction by GOP/MAGA from the real issues. Instead of focusing on solving our healthcare problems, income disparities, and homelessness, they are highlighting a non-existent problem that does not affect Americans in any possible way.
Welcome to the new Oligarchy… the wealthy will get richer on the backs of the middle class… witness the inauguration… who was left out in the cold??? The MAGA base while Tech oligarchs are displayed and kept warm and cozy… Zuckerberg , Musk Bezos and others..: even Tic Tok will be there…what ban???
And who, exactly, declined to increase wages?
Republican Treasury nominee said his #1 priority was to extend and make permanent - the expiring tax cuts. When asked if he would favor increasing the minimum wage - he said: No.
*That* is who keeps the minimum wage low.
It’s not the immigrants ruining the world, it’s the super rich having too much money and too much power. They are playing real life Monopoly with our world .
They're an easy scapegoat to avoid the real issue, which are those elite few who pretty much make every single decision or influence every decision that actually matters. They've convinced everyone they deserve all that they have at the expense of everyone else.
Trump’s supporters are not concerned about welfare money going to illegals. What they want is a white Anglo Saxon Protestant nation, if possible slave-owning.
Yeah, well, white AngloSaxons aren’t always everything they’re cracked up to be. Some of them are down right evil. Look at the 🍊 💩 & all his sycophants. ☠️
Yep I know all to well trying to ingage and debate with them and they put up road blocks to their brains (“facts we don’t need no facts”)I just laugh them off now🤣
This message isn’t getting to those who need to hear it. It has to be louder to break through the binding hate they feel. I’m afraid the only way this can change is by them feeling pain from Shitler’s policies. Too bad the rest of us will have to suffer too.
The same plan was started in 1930s Germany, demonise and vilify a section of society. Then came the imprisonment of the gypsies and the disabled. This has been seen this before - lest we forget
One of the images that has stuck with me since primary school is a black and white photo of working white people of the early Jim Crow Era, whipped into a frenzy, convinced that they had more in common with the wealthy elites than the newly-freed slaves now making slave wages same as them.
Immigrants make this country better. They are hard-working and still believe in the dream of a better life. I am disgusted Congress is spending so much energy trying to pass a bill named for that random woman murdered by an "illegal" while ignoring 1000s murdered by our own citizens every year.
A junta of unelected, privileged elites has ruled us since before the Gadsden Flag suggested they not tread on us. The difference now is we chose them, knowing they'd tread on us, and we welcomed them with open arms.
Yes, you are correct, I didn't take in account non-voters. But would still prefer 'fellow Americans' than 'we Americans', because it is actually nauseating to be lumped in with Trump supporters.
Thanks to the Despicable Coward Democrats, they believed that Undocumented stays Undocumented instead of changing the MTF laws years ago of allowing them to apply for Temp, Permanent then Citizenship within 5yrs plan.
Well Paul I hope the majority see your way, because it sure makes sense, It's Trump's way of getting the ppl to take their eyes of the ball, they should be asking why are there so many billionaires nobody needs that amount of money, they could not realistically spend in a life time
I think of it as our superpower ... people want to be here, to be part of what we have created. With great power comes great responsibility. We are squandering our superpower, using it for evil.
But now it’s beginning to flow the other way. Friends who are naturalized citizens are planning to return to country of origin as soon as their kids are out of school. Prefer not to uproot them mid-education. Nice, productive people who have had enough of the ‘new’ America.
The most American people are those that chose to be here.
Immigration is American as fuck.
When Bob Dipshit talks about lazy immigrants on imaginary welfare and also simultaneously working so hard to displace underperforming losers like him my brain shuts off. Why engage with that?
They want to take away all financial benefits to force people to do the jobs migrants do now. There thinking is if people have no alternative they will do it or starve. No skin off there ass.
The immigration "problem" has existed ever since the original illegal immigrants invented the concept hundreds of years ago after claiming unearned heritage.
Somehow, MAGA has been brainwashed that every immigrant is out to kill or rob you. I always liked ex-Gov. John Kasich's idea of how to deal with undocumented immigrants. His idea was if they have been here for a certain length of time, have no criminal record, fast track for permanent residency.
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Also know they commit less than 0.1% of crime and violent crime!!
But Crime, Immorality, and Corruption are GREAT when Republicans!
If you have enough money, you should get through this.
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The risk of being called socialists seems to be more dangerous than letting fascists rise.
First thing we need is to get rid of the nazis.
(Asking for my chickens.)
WTF is wrong with these greedy, soulless billionaires?
I am on Social Security (SS) and Medicare. The monthly premium for the latter is $174, which is deducted from my SS. I carry an Aetna Medicare PPO Advantage plan that costs me zero.
I worked 4 years past my normal retirement age, so I receive an extra 8% per month for each year.
Not saying that's better, obv.
Agree that hardened violent criminals need to be deported, nothing hard ab getting behind that, but the issue of immigration and why it is so broken is a lot more complicated.
They stole everyone’s copyright, then their jobs and finally their humanity.
Asylees apply and are granted social security #s and work visa's while they wait years for their court date.
I wouldn't feed who hate me either .
Billionaires
pay millionaires
to convince working people
the real problem
is poor people.
They can't keep running away from their problems or exporting them to other countries.
The concentration camps started out as holding areas for the mass deportations he was conducting.
Yet we have people lining up to suck-off any and all millionaires from Trump to Cuban to Obama to Taylor Swift.
No rich person is your ally or savior.
Oh dear no. That’s happened and they scored the first blood and battle.
It was never about the jobs, it's always been about manufactured outrage
—The American people, 2024
Farm workers, healthcare workers and chicken pluckers is going to help the price of eggs
And we will all pay for it.
The officious legalistic settler immigrants are the problematic ones. They impose violence, land theft and economic class war on the first peoples and indigenous who have lived here since time immemorial. They can get out of the land. Others: share, take care, be welcome.
Republican Treasury nominee said his #1 priority was to extend and make permanent - the expiring tax cuts. When asked if he would favor increasing the minimum wage - he said: No.
*That* is who keeps the minimum wage low.
They are as bad as the Republicans.
What did they do with people that they thought were less than?
Enslaved them.
This is the beginning. Musks got people working hard on that neurolink. Do you think he'll use and test it on the willing?
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Immigration is American as fuck.
When Bob Dipshit talks about lazy immigrants on imaginary welfare and also simultaneously working so hard to displace underperforming losers like him my brain shuts off. Why engage with that?