A bunch of car park owners have been granted a High Court review to try and get rid of the Dublin City Transport Plan. So far the plan has delivered faster buses and reduced traffic - while footfall keeps growing. Backwards stuff that must be resisted. www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dubl... - ThreadSky

pidgeon.ie • 69 days ago

A bunch of car park owners have been granted a High Court review to try and get rid of the Dublin City Transport Plan.

So far the plan has delivered faster buses and reduced traffic - while footfall keeps growing.

Backwards stuff that must be resisted.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dublin-city-council-acted-beyond-its-powers-with-traffic-changes-on-quays-traders-say-1708876.html

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dagmarfischer.bsky.social•68 days ago

"a smaller number of shoppers driving is more than offset by the rise in the number of shoppers travelling by public transport." https://www.thejournal.ie/paul-odonoghue-traders-dublin-cars-traffic-pedestrianise-roads-6434835-Jul2024/

perryshare.bsky.social•69 days ago

An entity that contains the RAI that is constantly attacking the wages and conditions of those in the hospitality sector - not surprisingly coming to the defence of the wealthy who demand to be able to drive into town.

markdowling.bsky.social•69 days ago

The problem though is that public bodies in Ireland often given NIMBYs “gimme” JRs by simply not properly following the applicable legislation? Obviously the review isn’t a final statement on that here, but councils should surely be review-proofing their decisions to a better degree

markdowling.bsky.social•69 days ago

Unfortunately we too often see both the public bodies and YIMBYs blame applicants and their solicitors for successful overturns of developments or infrastructure rather than examine why the permissions struck down were poorly handled

michealhalton.bsky.social•69 days ago

But is that a good use of resources? Do we want more legal reviews and even slower delivery?

Or do we want a system where we spend money on
Building better not on pretending the legal profession know best on all aspects of urban planning, transport, water and electricity infrastructure?

michealhalton.bsky.social•69 days ago

For example - Over half of an bord planaela budget is spent on judicial reviews which means it’s as much about legal proofing projects than appropriate planning.

pidgeon.ie•69 days ago

I think that's easier said than done, tbh. The council has approached this from the start with that in mind, but there isn't some straightforward path they can follow that isn't open to challenge.

In this case, for example, they're using some clear legislation allowing them to alter road layout...

pidgeon.ie•69 days ago

...to improve public transport. (S38 of the Roads Act).

It's quite clear that they can do that, but the car park people will try argue that there should be some statutory form of consultation, or that the consultation that they did falls short of some standard based elsewhere, or that there is...

pidgeon.ie•69 days ago

...some sort of environmental test that hasn't been met etc etc.

It's not a case of following some clear set of rules: it's much more open to interpretation. And this sort of endless legal challenge system makes stuff so very hard to do across the board.

enahsc.bsky.social•69 days ago

That level of certainty takes a lot of time and money. Problematic when skills are in short supply versus huge demand.

pidgeon.ie•69 days ago

These guys lost the argument in the council chamber, so they've taken to the courts instead.

Dublin city should be run by and for its people - not its car parks.

The transport plan is working - the next phases look good - we should keep going.

pidgeon.ie•69 days ago

(Thankfully there is no injunction or stay on the measures already in place. Things will stay as is. But this court case needs to be won and council powers to improve the city vindicated.)

pidgeon.ie•69 days ago

It seems like they're going to wheel out their obviously nonsense report predicting the end of Irish civilization over a few bus lanes.

Sadlad behaviour.

Here's a good breakdown of what's wrong with their report: https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/dublin-city-transport-plan-barra-roantree-6434736-Jul2024/

thebikehub.ie•69 days ago

They own car parks, but they seem to be convinced that they own the entire city.

jsweetabix.bsky.social•69 days ago

this begs the question - who are they arguing *does* have the power in the city centre to manage traffic, if not DCC and the NTA? the free market?

deadtigerirl.bsky.social•68 days ago

We need to move away from the model of having to bring the car into the city. I say this as a car driver. On the rare occasion I head into the city at the weekend with the family we rarely go in the car. It's a much more pleasant experience and you're not worried if you sneak a wine at lunch.

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