“Why is the Democratic Party acting this way” because they are motivated by capitalist interests and they always will be. Get out of your little fantasy land
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They are an oligarchy they just try (and fail) to convince people that they are better than republicans when it has been show plenty of times that they are opportunistic and will throw you under the bus the moment it becomes convenient to do so.
im in a private discord server with a bunch of "leftists" (in reality they essentially are just social democrats who like red aesthetics) and they both acknowledge this, but at the same time are like "i wish the democrats would fight the republicans and not lose," like pick a side man
People can hope things will get better while acknowledging that they probably won't. The revolution isn't happening in the next year or even five years, so I wish anti-electoralists would either come up with better strategies or shut the fuck up. Handsitting isn't praxis.
these people i know personally so i hold them to a higher standard than i would someone i don't know
regardless, my observation is just that it seems silly, that people who are self proclaimed "marxists" are banking on a bourgeois party to improve their material conditions out of the goodness of
their hearts, when realistically, the only way for them to consider offering concessions in the first place is for them to be pressured by labor militancy
i saw your other post and yes; organizing is the only other alternative, because realistically, what other option is there
Personally I think dunking is kind of shit at this point. If you're trying to reach people (kind of important for leftist activism) and you're acting like a 12 year old you've lost the plot. I'm glad you can at least see that.
I feel like formal organization isn't getting us anywhere at this moment. I wasn't meaning to imply that electoralism is the only option leftists have: far from it. But we need to create the conditions in which we CAN organize. Or revolt in any meaningful way. Right now we are looking at
another GOP led government. While I'm not a fan of the Dems, the last time the GOP got into power they turned the legal state against leftists to a degree that we still haven't recovered from. I don't know any way to dismantle a police state that is keeping people from engaging in any sort of
Consider my plans and messages on my account. I can empathize, take all precautions (as you see I have as well), but do stay loud and motivated until it's a done deal.
Boycotting + striking, spreading awareness, however we can can contribute can help. (I am 'putting up' by organizing locally too)
I'm not sure I understand your point here. If you don't want to organize in the material conditions we have then you don't want a solution to the problem of our material conditions.
Electoralism is not going to fundamentally change our material conditions in the way that unions can and often do.
You’re right. We should simply give up and continue voting for one of the two wings of our fascist bourgeois ruling class every 4 years. Surely that is the solution.
Also, the position of "the revolution isn't happening" and "the revolution is imminent" are really close in terms of the amount of hubris an individual needs to sustain in order to actually carry either position.
We are hitting the brick wall of climate change. we will revolt or perish.
Tbf, revolution isn’t always well planned. It’s not like it’s on people’s calendar for a year. Like Lenin didn’t think it would happen in his life time, and it happened while he was exiled. 10 years of nothing 10 days of decades
People love to think about what they want the Dems to do, see them not do it, and then refuse to consider if there's something else the Dems are serving by not doing it.
"Hey guys we tried but the electoral-college/stacked SCOTUS/filibuster/gerrymandering/whatever blocked us again. Also we have no plans to oppose the electoral-college/stacked SCOTUS/filibuster/gerrymandering/whatever any time in the foreseeable future. Please donate, save our country!"
I remember in my youth how much kinder the world felt when I was under the impression that the people in power had simply abstracted away the consequences of their actions and that all that was needed was to show them the truth that lies down stream. That lens cracks when you see the intentions.
Why is it that drug addled, corrupt, greedy, geriatric politicians want to hold onto power as the beginning of the worst of climate change is abojt to become apparent to any still stuck head in the sand
They've shut down debate. They railroaded Bernie Sanders off the 2016 ticket. They spent $1 billion dollars and lost, breaking the illusion that the most money wins. It is pure disempowerment. A strong movement to a third party is on my mind today.
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regardless, my observation is just that it seems silly, that people who are self proclaimed "marxists" are banking on a bourgeois party to improve their material conditions out of the goodness of
i saw your other post and yes; organizing is the only other alternative, because realistically, what other option is there
“Don’t tell me to organize”
Uhhh. Ok.
Boycotting + striking, spreading awareness, however we can can contribute can help. (I am 'putting up' by organizing locally too)
Electoralism is not going to fundamentally change our material conditions in the way that unions can and often do.
There are encrypted apps.
There is a thing called opsec. It can be done, it has been done in historically worse conditions, and it will continue.
We are hitting the brick wall of climate change. we will revolt or perish.
Pelosi will die in office and I’m sure she whispers that shit in the mirror every day
Omg no fucking way