They literally had the guy who did the Sister Souljah moment back in the day do it again in 2024 in the exact manner you're describing, and it did not work. - ThreadSky

mugrimm.bsky.social • 24 days ago

They literally had the guy who did the Sister Souljah moment back in the day do it again in 2024 in the exact manner you're describing, and it did not work.

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Nope. We need a "Sister Souljah" moment. Tell the left that there are boundaries. Fuck off or join up. That moment was about her saying "If black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people?"

Dems tell Hamas-lovers to fuck off, no pogroms, no nazis, no Hamas.

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dillo.media•23 days ago

also very funny to look at that moment, which is generally considered to be a bad thing now, and be like 'that rocked" lol

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

The irony is outside a small group, Israel was not a top concern by most who actually ended up voting in any capacity.

Anyone pretending on either side that Harris would have won one way or another is frankly delusional about how little American voters care about FP, outside of "I want less chaos"

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

Harris lost because her campaign was made on the fly and was directly attached to Joe Biden with zero desire to separate herself from his administration, and he was one of the least popular presidents since we've monitored it so no amount of speaking about change works if you can't harpoon him.

nabalkattu.bsky.social•24 days ago

Also if housing and childcare costs are rising like 3000% on top of chaos and genocide most young people can't get really fired up about the status quo

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

I mean yeah, that's basically baked into what I've already said by "needing to separate from his administration".

withdrama.bsky.social•23 days ago

and risk some consultants, wonks and policy experts having their entire careers and reasonable moderate whisperers invalidated???

nabalkattu.bsky.social•23 days ago

Well you know it and I know it but surprisingly many people still think the Biden admin was 'pro-union' (despite continuing shrinkage) and 'good for the working class' (despite them eating shit during his admin)

bryceyoungquist.bsky.social•24 days ago

this is the only reason I think gaza might actually have made a difference: it was something high profile enough they could have said "see, look, I'm breaking from The Old Corpse Everyone Hates" while leaving the rest of the generic dem shit intact

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

But that would be her breaking from Biden, and tbh she'd be immediately asked about Biden and go right back to "Actually I support Joe Biden".

Which is what happened with every other thing she did that broke from Biden.

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

Like she spoke routinely about cracking down on price gouging and when asked if she supported Biden's current environment she went 'Yes'.

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

Now if we're talking the world where Harris comes out and goes "Joe Biden is a failed president and we all need to face the fact his brain is pudding", that's such a different world yes, any context from there out changes the math lol

dashwallkick.bsky.social•24 days ago

this is why I think everyone immediately didn't trust her. You can't be something different and also the same thing again. And they dropped the "they're weird" thing basically immediately so there isn't even a gleeful, hostile retaliation to support. "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

bryceyoungquist.bsky.social•24 days ago

absolutely. it's just a perfect candidate for making a symbolic break if that was your goal. which it wasn't, because the last time Kamala had any kind of independent initiative was what, 1996

reallysmallfish.bsky.social•24 days ago

I think there is an argument for Michigan goes the other way but I don’t know about the rest.

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

Yeah, people do a lot of napkin math but honestly it's missing the bigger issue that this election was lost in 2020 by Biden being the nominee because people are dumb enough to think he'd have willingly been a one term president, a thing considered WILDLY shameful by his peers.

reallysmallfish.bsky.social•24 days ago

No argument here. They thought they could Reagan him through a second term and it blew up in their faces.

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

Reagan probably not getting reelected nearly as easily had the internet been a thing, you can't 'reagan' a politician now short of them existing in total obscurity.

reallysmallfish.bsky.social•24 days ago

💯 but all their consultants probably had their first job managing Reagan’s campaign.

metraeccentric.bsky.social•24 days ago

While "Israel" might not have been a top issue depending on how you define it, I do think the entire thing was (correctly) perceived as a massive foreign policy failure on the part of the Biden administration. A *change* in policy was needed and she failed to have one let alone communicate one.

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

I covered this elsewhere, but she actually proposed tons of changes over Biden, it's just no one was ever going to take those claims seriously without her using Biden as a sacrificial lamb.

scooterbones.bsky.social•24 days ago

Not a bad set of assumptions here given what's usually true, but there's been polls showing it was in fact a determining factor
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/biden-voters-passed-kamala-harris-because-gaza-new-poll-shows

nostikvvvibes.bsky.social•24 days ago

kamala needed a ricky ray rector moment

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

If you mean with Joe Biden's career/legacy, yeah couldn't agree more lol

nostikvvvibes.bsky.social•24 days ago

But of course.

eliotetc.bsky.social•24 days ago

"if we had simply alienated a large chunk of our base even harder we would have won"

dudesrock.bsky.social•24 days ago

I never understood the point of these posts. We don't need the left, the left needs to get out of the Democratic party, they're worse than the Republicans, because they didn't vote for us? So they don't want the votes? That they didn't want anyway? And they're mad about it somehow?

nothingfromnada.bsky.social•24 days ago

Democrats like Bush better than they like Nader. It’s not the losing that they mind, it’s receiving criticism that drives them out of their damn minds.

scooterbones.bsky.social•24 days ago

Real when prophecy fails hours

mugrimm.bsky.social•24 days ago

If anyone's only mode of thinking is "The best political strategy is to do exactly what I wanted to have happened" that's a pretty good indicator they're just full of shit lol

utopianparallax.bsky.social•24 days ago

Told me to fuck off. So I did. And now they're crying about it. 🤷‍♂️

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