Starmer is being indecisive Starmer is making bad decisions Starmer is not reacting to Trump Starmer is reacting to Trump Starmer is trying to stay on the fence Starmer is on the wrong side It's basically the political equivalent of me telling my TV how I would have SMASHED that missed penalty. - ThreadSky

sturdyalex.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Starmer is being indecisive
Starmer is making bad decisions
Starmer is not reacting to Trump
Starmer is reacting to Trump
Starmer is trying to stay on the fence
Starmer is on the wrong side

It's basically the political equivalent of me telling my TV how I would have SMASHED that missed penalty.

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ternfortheworse.bsky.social•3 days ago

I would say he’s doing a pretty fair job in a borderline impossible situation. And if he gets anything at all in Washington, he will look like a proper statesman

smazak.bsky.social•3 days ago

It's so difficult when your allies are literal neo-nazis isn't it

iebathrugby.bsky.social•3 days ago

Your quoting the BBC😉

romylangford.bsky.social•2 days ago

Not ideal but the situation today is like no other since ww2.He said he wld continue aid to the worst hit areas like Gaza and Sudan and also vaccine/health/child programs in the world.
If Ukraine falls, so does the largest grain producer/provider to the poorest in the world.
That would cause famine

tangocat.bsky.social•1 day ago

Exactly this. Armchair kvetching. It gets really tedious.

susanglh.bsky.social•22 hours ago

So boring and so wrong.

jsewtz.bsky.social•1 day ago

All world leaders need to "react to Trump". All Europe need to spend more on defence now US aligned to Russia. US still important for Ukraine to have any decent future. Thats the reality.

sturdyalex.bsky.social•1 day ago

And for that to happen, what European leaders must work to do is buy time. That is the most important commodity here.

jsewtz.bsky.social•1 day ago

Agree. All Europe has to up the game. Good Finland and Sweden now in NATO. Germany has to get to grips with borrowing and spending on defence. And we need to do this before Russia uses amy ceasefire to rebuild. But in the meantime there will be no peace in Ukraine without some sort of US security.

ianinspen.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'd be grateful if the nominal pre-election period could be extended, say by 4 years, and journalists respect the expectations. In this way I might manage the next few years in a less agitated state.

leedsjohnlufc.bsky.social•3 hours ago

And your views after Trump's ambush of Zelensky?

leedsjohnlufc.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Starmer standing with Trump & Nato, & when Trump betrays Ukraine's freedom, sovereignty, & security we will need US support for:

Aircraft Carrier support & resupply
Our aircraft command & control
Battlefield sattlelite intelligence
Starlink drone artillery support

Trump wont let us defend Ukraine

sturdyalex.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Sure. So might as well go to the White House and headbutt him to make social media feel better.

leedsjohnlufc.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Ignoring the German train coming down the tracks, and, instead, cheering on the diplomatic sucess, is exactly what we did in 1939!

Promises and pieces of paper are meaningless in this new world. We need armed forces that can act independently from Trump, & the longer we stall the worse it will be!

yebisu-dragon.bsky.social•10 hours ago

What Starmer understands but you apparently don’t is that operational independence from America is something that will take years and years to achieve.

leedsjohnlufc.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Ukraine dont have years, they will be betrayed by Trump this year, and stalling on that, rather following the new German chancellor, whose made his first priority, is Starmer's big mistake!

It like stalling on rearmement in 1939!

yebisu-dragon.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Stalling for re-armament worked in 1939! Did you forget who won the won?
But if buttering up Trump to stall for time is such a mistake why is Zelensky doing it as well?

andyinafield.bsky.social•3 days ago

Not a fan of Starmer. He caused me to leave the party after more than 30 active years.

But fucking hell. The spoilt brat media and the milieu it creates is obscene.

What, seriously, do the self obsessed little suits think they're playing at?

sturdyalex.bsky.social•3 days ago

A Sky hack complained today that he didn't take the money from welfare. CAN YOU IMAGINE if he'd reduced pensions by 10p each?

andyinafield.bsky.social•3 days ago

A line fed by Badenoch? She had that lined up in her incoherent "response." Just bingo words, though.

Punch down, punch down.

Sadly, a starmer did, though. Differently.

There's loads of money. Just in the wrong place.

Sky: "Tax wealth, PM?" If only.

ianinspen.bsky.social•3 days ago

Those with a limited political outlook, who don't raise questions, quite probably like Bingo words. It saves them listening.

oddballwoofwoof.bsky.social•3 days ago

When I see someone deploying a "Just do [massively difficult thing that can be expressed in 3 words or fewer]!" argument as their devastating response to how they'd solve all our problems, I feel a little more sympathy for anyone who has to face reality in a country of people who apparently don't.

glawsteruk.bsky.social•1 day ago

You are so wrong. How would you have played it?

noelleinsd.bsky.social•1 day ago

I agree with you, pls read my post on this thread…

sturdyalex.bsky.social•23 hours ago

Huh? Read that again. I was criticising the attitude.

glawsteruk.bsky.social•23 hours ago

Sorry, I misread your post.

peterstott.bsky.social•1 day ago

I like to think that Jeremy Corbyn as PM would have:

1) not handed over any message from king Charles,

2) educated the moron about VAT not being a tariff,

3) laughed at Trump when he mentions the Nobel Peace.

Oh, and in my dreams Jeremy goes to meet President Bernie Sanders.
Yep, pure fantasy

sturdyalex.bsky.social•1 day ago

"We won the argument." 😂

petehowe33.bsky.social•2 days ago

Great analogy and point taken.

My frustration derives from questioning if Starmer is sitting on the fence just because he’s worried a few Red Wall voters will think he’s moving UK close to EU so they might not vote Labour in 2029…

sturdyalex.bsky.social•2 days ago

Plainly not. This is all about working in tandem with other NATO leaders to reel Turmp in and buy Ukraine - and Europe - more time.

petehowe33.bsky.social•2 days ago

It’s quite a relief to read your reply - confirmation from an expert on politics that Starmer is acting on Trump/Putin/NATO without factoring-in how Mr & Mrs Wilkins in Darlington will vote in 2029.

Thank you.

petehowe33.bsky.social•2 days ago

That would be like Starmer missing the penalty because he’s too worried that his auntie’s plumber who supports the other team and he hardly knows, might not be nice to him when he visits his relatives next Christmas

petehowe33.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’m actually getting a little bit annoyed at just the thought that at a time of such tectonic shift for all of Europe, Starmer’s decisions might be even slightly influenced by his consideration of the 2029 vote of a few Leave voters who already created massive problems for UK in 2016.

suelli.bsky.social•2 days ago

I am getting more than pissed off at people making this all about their pet project. I wished we’d stayed in the EU, but this isn’t about Brexit. This is about whether NATO, the organisation that has ensured are security for 70+ years, can survive without the its biggest contributor.

suelli.bsky.social•2 days ago

Starmer is proceeding with caution because people’s lives are at stake. It isn’t clear yet whether Trump is serious in his expansionist rhetoric, or whether he just wants more money. But it is clear that Starmer is acting in concert with Europe, and they will stay close, with or without America.

petehowe33.bsky.social•2 days ago

This ultimately is about the integration of Europe for economic, political, and security benefit… It’s naive to discuss continued European integration for defence without then reaching a point where rolling all nations under the European defence umbrella within the EU becomes a pragmatic option…

petehowe33.bsky.social•2 days ago

Leave voters’ poor choices since 2016 have proven to be so disastrous for us all, they shouldn’t have any influence on what they watch on the telly, much less the positioning of UK at a time when the entire European continent is practically under attack from Trump in the west and Putin in the east.

dizliz.bsky.social•2 days ago

I think judging by history and I’m an old bird ! Starmer is narrowing his horizons he has no choice after all he’s not going to pick up many votes if #Putin up his game against Europe btw I’m in Salisbury think about that! #Novichok

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