I humbly admit I haven’t entirely understood the cutoffs. I thought you had 12hrs per loop for a 5-loop finish, and 13:20 per loop for a fun run. So Tomo is now on loop 3 going for a fun run, but can’t go for 5 loops because it took more than 24hrs to finish loop 2. Am I right!? #bm100 - ThreadSky

willbaldlygo.bsky.social • 2 days ago

I humbly admit I haven’t entirely understood the cutoffs.
I thought you had 12hrs per loop for a 5-loop finish, and 13:20 per loop for a fun run.
So Tomo is now on loop 3 going for a fun run, but can’t go for 5 loops because it took more than 24hrs to finish loop 2.

Am I right!?

#bm100

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yafflephd.bsky.social•2 days ago

The average 12 hour cut off is only applied at loop 3 - 36 hrs. So if Tomo and John did an amazingly fast 3rd loop and made the 36 hr cut off they could carry on, in theory.
In practice, not likely.

trustedsystem.bsky.social•2 days ago

The 12 hour per loop serves only as a orientation for the first two loops.
35h59 for loop3 gets you the right for loop4 regardless of what happened before. Could even be 14h - 14h - 8h or something more wild.

notatrailrunner.bsky.social•2 days ago

I'm also a bit confused here. I think the assumption is that if you can''t do 2 loops in 24 hrs you're not going to finish 3 loops in 36.
Hypothetically if a runner completes Loop 1 in 12:15 and finishes Loop 2 in 24.30 and Loop 3 in 35:45 can they still go out on Loop 4?

willbaldlygo.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yep. That's right*

*typed with about 87% confidence

superkev79.bsky.social•2 days ago

Like all things Barkley, it isn't entirely clear. I've found conflicting information on the same webpage. Could there have been a rule change in recent years?

tranceomega.bsky.social•2 days ago

I wish Tomo all the luck. Had a good chat with him at the Hong Kong 100 exbo fair and was trying to get him to sign up for the #Spinerace. Told him John Kelly keeps turning up for the pleasure

glenn.zure.com•2 days ago

He can, cutoff for loop 2 is 26:40 (both funn and full) he has to finish Loop 3 before 36h mark however to continue for full run.

willbaldlygo.bsky.social•2 days ago

Ok. Got it. So you need to average 12hrs per loop to finish loop 3 within 36hrs in order to go for a full 5-loop finish.
So Tomo can still do it, but he’ll need to do loop 3 in 11:28 or less.

Now am I right? 🙏 #bm100

jess-lake.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes! Apparently, theoretically it seems possible but he would have to drastically pick up the pace after loop 2… And even if successful, would have to do two more loops in 24 hours 😳

willbaldlygo.bsky.social•2 days ago

🙏 Thank you! I do not number well.

iowrunner.bsky.social•2 days ago

So technically a finish is still possible but would require a negative split, which seems… unlikely?

randypitler.bsky.social•2 days ago

Have they had a year where no one makes it to Loop 4?

davidblank1.bsky.social•2 days ago

2021 was the last time it happened. Jared Campbell and Luke Nelson were the only loop 3 finishers, both taking 39:04. The last time no one finished loop 3 was 2006.
In 2015 (the previous latest start time) John Kelly and Jamil Coury were the only ones to start loop 4, but didn't finish.

glenn.zure.com•2 days ago

Multiple 😅
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS7bFn8RH5Na4vVxNijCsFCiHeYqRksDi5D9ddC9Fz4yK7nOQhEg8HwG78lz-PFVB2EkFn4QlJKEXMV/pubhtml#

randypitler.bsky.social•2 days ago

*year(s)

thecardman.bsky.social•2 days ago

Thank you @willbaldlygo.bsky.social for asking the question I was going to ask and to @taka-does-stuff.bsky.social via @glenn.zure.com for the answer. After the coverage Jasmin Paris got last year, this is my first year following live on socials. And I'm loving it! Thank you all for being awesome!

elviscresley.bsky.social•2 days ago

That's my understanding. 👍

kansasrunner.bsky.social•2 days ago

So basically Kelly has almost exactly 11 hours and Tomo a little more than 11 hours to complete loop 3 in order move on to loop 4. Maybe daylight will help?

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