Americans don't "agree to disagree". That's equivalent to giving up on our civil discourse, the engine that drives our ability to self-rule. As Americans we agree to always pursue the truth and challenge and educate each other until we ACTUALLY AGREE.
That is how we build a consensus and move our democratic society forward to solutions we can all get behind. That is how our system works, and without it it doesn't work.
Strange words from someone who’s refusing to get to the truth about Ukraine.
I get that you can’t admit to yourself that you’re wrong, because it would mean admitting that you made mistakes in the recent past, which is psychologically painful.
But to THIS extent, all while espousing truth seeking?
I mean, I don’t know how wilfully blind you have to be to deny DOZENS if not hundreds of mainstream publications from the multiple Western MSM on the Nazi problem in Ukraine, published over the years between 2014 and 2022.
I gave you two pieces of evidence from BBC and The Nation (last one written by a Ukrainian journalist and writer in the USA, BTW), and you continued ignoring both pieces.
Why?
How is this not avoidance of uncomfortable facts on your behalf?
No, I do not consider Putin to be any such thing as you describe him—show me evidence for every single accusation of delusional, murderous, and dictator.
I don’t know why you’re bringing up Musk in this conversation? I do not like Musk nor am in interested in discussing him as he’s irrelevant here.
The countries with ethnically at least partly Jewish heads of state: Israel, Ukraine, Mexico.
So?
Two of those have far-right, ethno-nationalist ideologies and practice ethnic cleansing/genocide/apartheid against their minority populations. Mexico does not (also, Mexico did not side with Ukraine).
I live in NZ, but I was born and raised in Ukraine and have family there. Some of my friends worked for the Office of the President. I have close friends on both sides of the civil war. I have no reason to lie about this—but again as this goes against your preconceived notions, you seem to ignore…
No joke! My FIL called my hubs one night, a while ago, in a dither that my hubs wasn't going to get his SS when he retires from teaching. 🤦🏻♀️ My hubs texted him back, so as to avoid the ensuing argument, with a sourced explanation that now he will get his SS, and that he wouldn't have until this law.
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Any studies on that?
Yes, vampires are vulnerable to sunlight.
Yes, Superman is vulnerable to cryptonite.
No, MAGAts are not vulnerable to evidence.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/brain-difference-democrats-republicans/
Judging by the flag in your profile & posts supporting the Kyiv regime, clearly facts don’t change your mind.
Nazis, unconstitutional ‘14 coup, Zelensky’s war crimes, imprisoning rivals, closing down TV channels, civilian murders…
Besides Israel can you name the only country in the world with a Jewish head of state?
It's not hard so long as you don't mind looking incredibly foolish.
Americans don't "agree to disagree". That's equivalent to giving up on our civil discourse, the engine that drives our ability to self-rule. As Americans we agree to always pursue the truth and challenge and educate each other until we ACTUALLY AGREE.
I get that you can’t admit to yourself that you’re wrong, because it would mean admitting that you made mistakes in the recent past, which is psychologically painful.
But to THIS extent, all while espousing truth seeking?
But yeah, sure, “Fox News”, buddy.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
But do tell us about Nazis.
You think Putin isn't a delusional, murderous authoritarian dictator just like Hitler?
That Ukraine has a few idiot nazis in it is more proof it's a free country. Trying to be.
Why do you defend a murderous dictator? Do you have a choice?
I gave you two pieces of evidence from BBC and The Nation (last one written by a Ukrainian journalist and writer in the USA, BTW), and you continued ignoring both pieces.
Why?
How is this not avoidance of uncomfortable facts on your behalf?
I don’t know why you’re bringing up Musk in this conversation? I do not like Musk nor am in interested in discussing him as he’s irrelevant here.
But hey, don’t take my word for it, read Guardian, NYT, watch BBC etc. prior to 2022.
And stop with a Jewish President nonsense, it’s an argument only if you’re a 5yo.
https://youtu.be/5SBo0akeDMY?si=ysH4_BianH8LLENq
You won't name the only country besides Israel with a Jewish head of state.
The problem with Fox isn't that they always lie - they often tell the truth. It's that they choose to omit facts that would tell the full story.
I never referenced them, very rarely watched them; mostly I can’t stand Fox News + it’s been years since I came across their coverage of anything.
Why are you hung up on them?
My sources: BBC, CNN, Guardian, WaPo, NYT, Nation, Zeit, SPIEGEL…
So?
Two of those have far-right, ethno-nationalist ideologies and practice ethnic cleansing/genocide/apartheid against their minority populations. Mexico does not (also, Mexico did not side with Ukraine).
They’re supporting Big Finance, Big Pharma, etc.
“Left” is pro-worker. Shitlibs are decidedly NOT pro-worker.
*Offers a list of links and articles quoting evidence of my claim*
"I'm not reading that."
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Yeah. Yeah.