Next year, the EU will require cars to have buttons & dials -- not just touchscreens -- to get a top safety rating.
This is a great move. Drivers can fiddle with knobs & buttons without taking their eyes off the road, but they can't do that with touchscreens.
(Even better: Tesla will hate this)
This is a great move. Drivers can fiddle with knobs & buttons without taking their eyes off the road, but they can't do that with touchscreens.
(Even better: Tesla will hate this)
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Nice to see Europe take the danger seriously. Meanwhile, the US continues to ignore it.
I do not want them at the BEACH
(but no I fully agree)
I hate them, of course
Yet another example of the tech world assuming they know what the market wants just because they accidentally made something the market wanted years ago.
You can’t re-create the magic of the tech boom, guys. If your tech isn’t practical and helpful WE DO NOT WANT IT.
I couldn't even listen to the radio or even adjust the temp.
It was like flying a space ship
But the Bolt, bless it, has knobs for the sound and buttons for climate control
And I don't mess with either if the car is moving
Had an Audi courtesy car for a few weeks. Almost nothing worked without the touchscreen. Absolutely hated it with a PASSION.
If I can't legally use my phone whilst driving, why is using an embedded "tablet" any different?
(Hint: it's not).
This is a GREAT (overdue) move.
Heck, it will probably even benefit the UK and the US.
Oh, wait...
Give me my damn dials back.
I have a 2016 car with knobs and buttons. Recently hired a few 2023/24 cars with only touchscreens and it's always a pain, even as a team effort with two of us in the front seats (one driving and one on GPS/routing duty).
Touch screens require deep menu structures that increase cognitive load and take longer to navigate.
At 70 miles per hour.
Hopefully though they gave more notice because next year’s cars are already designed
When there's a pan on fire, your fingers are covered in butter, and the cat's getting under your feet, that's not the time to go digging through submenus.
(mirrors become useless /blinding when someone is behind you and you need to turn, so even bikes with strong lights are invisible)
We also had a button under our left foot to switch from high beam to low beam.
The heat uses sliders on the screen that are far easier to find and use.
KNOB NATION 💯💯
There is no backing up.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-E9B387D7-AFEF-4AAF-8685-4FE71E09287D.html
The touchscreen is the preferred method to manually shift. However, in the unlikely situation in which the touchscreen is unavailable and therefore can't be used, the drive mode selector on the overhead console automatically activates
Many times simple is better!
My 2014 car has a touchscreen for some functions, but all the frequent functions have buttons, and many touchscreen features are disabled in motion.
It has a screen, but I don't need it
(Who won't think for a couple seconds and realize that it's often less convenient, and a single-point-of-failure risk if it controls anything remotely important).
Buttons everywhere and an attack seat that unexpectedly "adjusted" to me as soon as I shut the door
Trying to press 3 or more time to turn it on, pick the element and pick the power is slow and annoying especially when it doesn’t seem to register.
I have a friend with similar opinions who has a newish car with HUD and she loves it.
Just eliminate everything.
Elon is all about cost-cutting and profits.
Plus techification of items leads to breaking down and you buying more cars
what a perfect workaround, the haptic knob from a few years ago.
People are just as unsafe with buttons and dials. Scrolling through a list with an encoder is just as bad, since click does not always equal one step and the positions are arbitrary and often loop.
And Tesla does have buttons.
Touchscreens in cars exist because they're cheap
They're going to use multifunction switches which wear out and are just as arbitrary as the screens.
I suggest a campaign of linking car touchscreens to being nouveau riche.
But you can do that with a button in a Tesla, too.
And my volume knob in my car no longer does that - because it's an encoder. One click isn't always one step.
In my mom's Lexus, I never knew if the multifunction knob was doing five steps per click or one.
I rarely ever touch it when driving.
I use voice commands to accomplish tasks.
This is a silly Ludditean argument engaged in by people who, for the most part, don’t regularly drive cars with voice control.
(there it is)
Return of the Knob
(come on)
Return of the Knob
(one more time)
You know that i'll be back
(here I am)
"Car safety is woke!"
I doubt it will matter that Tesla would hate it , they are likely to sell that few cars in Europe in future the dealerships will be closing
YES!
YES!
So glad to be European.
All the Tesla functions are available by voice command. I never used the screen when I had one.
Also there is a manual, non-electric door handle.
I have to touch the screen a few times in certain spots to adjust climate controls in the Tesla. And have to do it often cause it gets too hot/cold fast, always fogging up, etc. Very distracting.
Now if we can start making engines I can repair. Ohh we'd be so back.
Won’t mourn its passing.
They both got post-2020 Subarus. Well-placed knobs & buttons everywhere!
2022 Ascent:
I believe defrost button, specifically, is a matter of law as well.
(BTW, dusty screen pic isn't mine!)
I'm self employed so I run errands, drive Dr. appts, & sale-shop for fam often & thus use their vehicles.
Agree bigger screen is not worth it, tho it does give great backup cam detail vis if needed.
absolute shitshow with the touchscreens
We need this here!!
Screens are so dangerous. I just want a DIAL to turn my heat up or down
I don't need anyone monitoring me. Dumb is good and I like it
ugh
Look at an ordinary modern car trunk, it has a glow in the dark handle to let you escape if you get locked in it.
Why? because shit happened and a lesson was learned.
It seems to be a defining feature of tech-bro land to re-make every old mistake over again.
the sign in question: "every regulation is written in blood"
Elon: "Don't care, remove it." -Distant banging from Cybertrunk-
Employee: "What was that?"
Elon: "I don't know."
Mitch McConnel’s SIL made frantic calls to family while her car slowly sank in a lake because she couldn’t open the door. She drowned.
the love of god
Touchscreens for basic controls in cars, have never made sense to me.
The same holds true for automobiles. Now, if we can get them to label everything with words instead of arcane symbols I would be much happier.
They're going to catch on soon and then the federal govt will be fighting a two-front battle, domestically and internationally.
Unfortunately Russia and China also see this and will be seeking their piece of the pie.