‘Europe Must Forget Trump and Form a Coalition of the Willing to Defend Ukraine’ Senior politicians, military leaders & experts send an open letter calling on Europe & Canada to join forces in defending Ukraine from Russian aggression bylinetimes.com/2024/11/19/e... - ThreadSky

peterstefanovic.bsky.social • 170 days ago

‘Europe Must Forget Trump and Form a Coalition of the Willing to Defend Ukraine’

Senior politicians, military leaders & experts send an open letter calling on Europe & Canada to join forces in defending Ukraine from Russian aggression

https://bylinetimes.com/2024/11/19/europe-must-forget-trump-and-form-a-coalition-of-the-willing-to-defend-ukraine/

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kenosabi.bsky.social•170 days ago

I whole heartedly agree we must be less reliant on the US as trump takes power and Europe must remember that when he asks for help in his proxy trade and possible war with china they can't have there cake and eat it

vivatheresistance.bsky.social•170 days ago

Aussies are in!

raitsaar.bsky.social•170 days ago

I wonder if Navalny et al was asked for signatures?

skiamakhos.uk•170 days ago

That's a

skiamakhos.uk•170 days ago

We need to end this was ASAP and begin reconstruction. Stop this waste of lives and resources.

libsaltminer.bsky.social•170 days ago

Totally agree. Let other countries waste their money on pointless wars instead of the USA

janliz.bsky.social•170 days ago

So if Canada came after Montana you would lie down and get your tummy rubbed??

libsaltminer.bsky.social•170 days ago

If Canada attacked Montana I wonder which countries would send us billions of dollars in cash and weapons to help us fight them off?

janliz.bsky.social•170 days ago

You don’t need them as you are so rich and great

libsaltminer.bsky.social•170 days ago

Nope we’re broke, we have the highest national debt in the world by far at 34 trillion almost double that of Chinas debt which has the second highest debt. Our debt is 121% of our GDP we absolutely need the money and we definitely can’t afford to send any of it to a war that we are not involved in.

raitsaar.bsky.social•170 days ago

Is US$ gonna be the reserve currency for forseeable future? Is US still net immigration destination? Sp500 still good place to invest. calm down. There is cost to not acting, which is higher.

janliz.bsky.social•170 days ago

But we are all involved with this war - if it escalates the world order will change and America will not be exempt

zorro27.bsky.social•170 days ago

Blackrock?????

christophercoder.bsky.social•170 days ago

America has a third of all the military hardware in the world. They hardly need anybody's help. Yet they still had allies for the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan after they were attacked on 9/11.

blueskytryout.bsky.social•170 days ago

If you needed it then all the other NATO countries would. That is how NATO works.

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libsaltminer.bsky.social•170 days ago

Ukraine isn’t part of NATO

blueskytryout.bsky.social•170 days ago

They already started messing with the ex-Soviet union NATO countries. USA lets them take Ukraine so who is going to care about little Estonia? Or Latvia? Maybe when Alaska goes you'll catch on.

subvet.bsky.social•169 days ago

Great! This is the way forward!!!

christophercoder.bsky.social•170 days ago

Problem is Trump might lift sanctions, idk if Europe can do much about that.

pckenny.bsky.social•170 days ago

This is redundant and narrow thinking. Global rules are no more and the UN has been pretty much neutralised. Causing more splits will not make anything better. Better to call for a much strengthened UN and new global rules. Political power comes from division that’s the real enemy!

maggiesi.bsky.social•170 days ago

Defend Ukraine! The US proxy war has laid the country to waste and hundreds of thousands of both Ukrainian and Russians have died. Many billions wasted by European countries and proposed missile actions threaten escalation. Ceasefire and negotiations are the only way forward for humanity.

uppervalleyjop.bsky.social•170 days ago

Totally disagree. If Putin was acting rationally then your argument would hold more weight, but the truth is, you don't stroke a rabid dog.

dozecat007.bsky.social•170 days ago

No. All the people signing this letter are bigwig armchair generals and keyboard warriors, all ever so keen to throw *other people's lives* into their endless meatgrinder war. We want jaw jaw not war war. No piece of land is so important it's worth the radioactive death of planet Earth.

uppervalleyjop.bsky.social•170 days ago

That is an absurd argument.

michele67.bsky.social•170 days ago

If the EU doesn’t finally pull together in the face of a hostile Trump and Putin then it has no place to call itself a global block.

tweetypie.bsky.social•170 days ago

Or maybe there could be a peace conference instead

democratron.bsky.social•170 days ago

Putin has shifted his economy into total war. It’s all food, oil to China and war materiel. If the war stops their economy screeches to a halt. That’s bad for Putin’s rule.

Ukraine is fighting for its existence and freedom from subjugation. Putin’s war is genocide.

What peace is possible?

tweetypie.bsky.social•170 days ago

I think you mean America has shifted its economy to total war. All Americans, their parents and their grandparents have been brainwashed against communism, socialism, Russia and China since 1917

democratron.bsky.social•170 days ago

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democratron.bsky.social•170 days ago

I think you are a vatnik

tweetypie.bsky.social•170 days ago

Of course you do

kenlad1.bsky.social•170 days ago

We need to forge a strong united Europe, not just to stand against aggressive foreign powers but to stand up to a Trump run US, to do this Britain needs to be heard and to do that we must rejoin the EU

upursbetty.bsky.social•170 days ago

I saw on FT today that G7 are likely watering down their condemnation of Russia! Anyone remember seeing Anthony Eden waving a piece of paper? Appeasement is not the answer.

matovueric256.bsky.social•170 days ago

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tinynood.bsky.social•170 days ago

Yes Europe must make him irrelevant. It will kill his ego

minnesotamarys.bsky.social•170 days ago

#WeStandWithUkraine 🇺🇦
#DemocracyCollaborates

‘Europe Must Forget Trump and Form a Coalition of the Willing to Defend Ukraine’...

theadesigner.bsky.social•170 days ago

100% have we not learned anything from history that aggression and obtaining land by force should not be tolerated..

rosemarypo.bsky.social•170 days ago

💯 agree

sean0919.bsky.social•170 days ago

Yes. This is especially true since Russia has been shown to be a paper tiger. Yes, they possess a huge nuclear arsenal, but France and Great Britain have a credible nuclear deterrent, and it’s a good bet Russia would not cross that line

cascracroft.bsky.social•170 days ago

Yes yes yes Europe needs to look after themselves and not rely on the US with Trump in power sad but true

chrundlethegreat88.bsky.social•170 days ago

I've been saying this since the war started. We can't rely on the US. Europe needs to come together and take a stand against putins war.

davouts.bsky.social•170 days ago

NATO's war.....

chrundlethegreat88.bsky.social•170 days ago

Nope, putin started it. NATO are a defensive pact. They would never have attacked Russia, just making sure they didn't try to recreate the USSR and invade their old satellites.....but keep spouting that shit. Go back to shitter

davouts.bsky.social•170 days ago

Oh dear.

A very strange defensive pact that allows NATO countries to bully other countries, then call on NATO allies to support their "defense" bombing other countries.

Is this the same "defense" that allows Israel to bomb Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Egypt, etc with impunity?

christophercoder.bsky.social•170 days ago

Which countries did NATO bomb?

davouts.bsky.social•170 days ago

Read it again?

chrundlethegreat88.bsky.social•170 days ago

..........sure, its that black n white. Done

davouts.bsky.social•170 days ago

You do not seem to handle well, disagreements with your point of view....

benskipper.bsky.social•170 days ago

As you said @philipwblood.bsky.social

philipwblood.bsky.social•170 days ago

Indeed as I have been arguing since the end of the Cold War and wrote about recently…

thinkitthrough.bsky.social•169 days ago

Yes

mau-reen.bsky.social•170 days ago

Why they caused it in the first place . What are they up too ? I for one am not happy that my taxes fund a corrupt Ukraine and NATO started this too so they should stop it

humanity101.bsky.social•170 days ago

👀👆💯✔️ Time for Europe to get it’s house in order 🙌

gazorpazorp.bsky.social•170 days ago

Europe must promote the peace talks and urge two sides to sit together instead of pushing the whole world to the final war.

uppervalleyjop.bsky.social•170 days ago

Absolutely disagree. Putin is irrational and you cannot compromise with him, we need to crush his Imperialistic ego trip, for the sake of Europe, Ukraine and the Russian population in general.

ayeyermammy.bsky.social•170 days ago

Indeed

lookingin.bsky.social•170 days ago

When Trump takes office, it is unlikely that he will favour Ukraine above his dear friend, Putin. Ukraine has to firewall itself against the decrease/lack of American aid. Europe has to step up and ensure Ukraine's victory.

tesstickle59.bsky.social•170 days ago

I don’t know why we’re all on the edge of our seats, waiting for a man who can’t string a sentence together to enlighten us.

oogwaylove.bsky.social•170 days ago

Europe is soo dependent on America, and without them they look clueless. End the war. As the great Bob Marley said He who fights and run away lives to fight another day. #SaveLives #PeopleShouldStopDying

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