My main problem with Schumer et al. is that if this is the case, making that case loudly and affirmatively would help. If this is a debate about tactics, fine, I get that. But right now, it feels like a minority of Dems in the Senate are giving up, and that's what's enraging people. - ThreadSky

jkfecke.bsky.social • 18 hours ago

My main problem with Schumer et al. is that if this is the case, making that case loudly and affirmatively would help. If this is a debate about tactics, fine, I get that. But right now, it feels like a minority of Dems in the Senate are giving up, and that's what's enraging people.

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I think the framing has been misguided, somewhat. People think Dems are afraid to take a hit in the jaw (shutdown) for the greater good. I don't think that's actually the calculus of all the "Yes" votes. There are arguments that a shut down could lead us down a faster path to democratic destruction

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rebeccascientist.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Schumer doesn't understand when you are losing a battle, you don't calculate, you don't plan for a honorable loss, you go with your guts, you fight hard, you sacrifice what's dear, so you can keep heart of the people for future battles. He has lost the heart of the people.

davidhdaw.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Exactly this. There is a case to make a shutdown would advantage republicans even more than the CR but Schumer didn’t make that case. He actually made the opposite case til yesterday then went “actually never mind shutdown is better, trust us.”

themidlifemedium.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Chuck Schumer is an old school oak-paneled dining room closed door elite donor class fundraising politician who is completely unqualified to meet this moment and must step aside immediately.

I'm calling for his immediate resignation.

ijeftomi.bsky.social•17 hours ago

That old chestnut...blaming things on Democratic messaging.

With this American media, Democratic messaging is like spitting into a hurricane.

jkfecke.bsky.social•16 hours ago

I know, and I usually defend them. Schumer has not acquitted himself well here.

ijeftomi.bsky.social•15 hours ago

What would you change about it?

jkfecke.bsky.social•15 hours ago

First, don't go against your caucus if you're the leader. You aren't a backbencher.

Second, make clear your concerns are about Trump abusing a shutdown. Make it clear you see this as a fight.

Third, don't make this into a big fight and make people blame Dems for the shutdown.

jkfecke.bsky.social•15 hours ago

(I mean amongst the Democrats; fighting the GOP is okay.)

jkfecke.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Schumer did basically everything wrong, and you can tell by the way Jeffries and Pelosi are attacking him.

ijeftomi.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Again...who else wants Schumer's job in Trump's America?

jkfecke.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Seriously, if you think that this makes it easier for Mump, then get in front of a microphone and say "Let me be clear -- I am not doing this for any reason other than to further the fight." But as I've said, Schumer is not a wartime consigliere.

jkfecke.bsky.social•18 hours ago

And n.b., I disagree with the idea that a shutdown is worse than passing this CR, mainly because I think that you could probably muscle a cleaner CR through if you blocked this. But I'm willing to hear people out, I'm not always right. Not making the case at all, however, is political malpractice.

aa-ron.bsky.social•18 hours ago

I keep going back to this. Musk and Trump moved quickly with the dismantling. It made it worse for them because it's so blatant. If they moved methodically, they could have gotten away with it. If they accelerate due to the shutdown, it will be blatant, and backlash will be worse. But I'm torn.

hoptimusprime.bsky.social•18 hours ago

When you've lost Warnock, it's time to pack it in.

factualist.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Great point. The challenge for Schumer is that he sucks at public communication and we need a fighter who can do it well

johnlockesghost.bsky.social•17 hours ago

This theory isn’t even a good one. And if Dems “got blamed” for the shutdown, which they didn’t in Trump’s first term, it would be the feckless and out of touch leadership’s fault for not driving the narrative and playing politics.

nkfinity.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Right. This is where I'm at. I totally could see Schumer's perspective. He just utterly failed to persuade his caucus on it and went through with it anyways when most of them opposed.

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