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joshuajfriedman.com • 17 days ago

Thread on today's hearing

Starting momentarily: Two labor unions and the Alliance for Retired Americans are asking federal judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly (in DC) to block Elon Musk/DOGE's access to citizens' personal information via the Treasury Dept. They're represented by Public Citizen and @normeisen.bsky.social

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cathymcgfeline.bsky.social•17 days ago

WHO will oversee this order? And the two who have "read only" - doesn't that mean they can copy data? Methinks I smell a rat.

nico-02.bsky.social•17 days ago

Besides, 🐀 & his boys have had access to our info since last weekend. Nobody can convince me our info hasn’t already been downloaded & shared…

debfromillinois.bsky.social•17 days ago

geoff61.bsky.social•17 days ago

Read-only absolutely does mean they can take data

maggiemae-maynot.bsky.social•17 days ago

So, no confiscated cell phones while they are using "read only" files,

3liz-y-que.bsky.social•17 days ago

Wouldn't that be lying to the Court?
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3liz-y-que.bsky.social•17 days ago

LIKEWISE

tinkerbell2.bsky.social•17 days ago

Are they closing the barn door after the cows have all gone, though?

hunesocial.bsky.social•17 days ago

very much so

atheisthere.bsky.social•17 days ago

Locking the stable door after the horse has bolted

balthushomewood.bsky.social•17 days ago

More like after the horse has bolted, got rustled, butchered, and turned into glue. There's no way Elon's team didn't compromise the whole network with their meddling.

grammynina77.bsky.social•16 days ago

Yup and you know they probably copied all the pertinent information. Scary still

infintecycle.bsky.social•16 days ago

they still can keep on accumulating data with read access.

lobuddytoyou.bsky.social•16 days ago

exactly.

washoesue.bsky.social•17 days ago

My thoughts as well

k8kelly.bsky.social•16 days ago

Sure, but in this case the door was locked and the horse illegally kicked it in. Reaction as opposed to pre-emptive action, was really the only option.
There is no precedent for this, sadly your constitution is not protected from coups.

k8kelly.bsky.social•16 days ago

But yeah, they should have had a sit in from day one. Lockeddoors and lost keys. Blocked access...anything...

adam003.bsky.social•17 days ago

My thoughts, too. Now that DOGE has the data, that is of no consequence. Unless, there is something that is forcing DOGE to turn over the data and prove that copies do not exist and/or slapping them with highly punitive fines.

eubird.bsky.social•16 days ago

It's impossible to prove that copies do not exist.

But otherwise - you are 100% correct. If anything, all of that amounts to giving US citizens a false sense of security.

theotherthinz.bsky.social•17 days ago

Individual punitive action not to be paid by a political 501c.

sharonimim.bsky.social•17 days ago

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ducklady.bsky.social•17 days ago

Hell, I still want to know where all the missing classified documents are that the 🍊🤡 Felonious Idiot Don the Con Traitor Trump stole.

ufftata.bsky.social•16 days ago

In russia and / or in Saudi Arabia? And at some cooperate headquarters.

ducklady.bsky.social•16 days ago

Undoubtedly

atheisthere.bsky.social•17 days ago

As I see it, there is nothing the law can do when you have a President who can simply issue a pardon if any are found guilty of anything.

seven2seven8.bsky.social•17 days ago

This is civil court, not criminal.

atheisthere.bsky.social•17 days ago

How is it civil if the crime took place in federal buildings involving federal equipment and federal data?

mmtdat.bsky.social•15 days ago

seven2seven8.bsky.social•17 days ago

Ex: You break into my home, steal, cause damage. That is against the law. I cannot bring criminal charges, but the state can. I can sue you for the financial harm you caused me to try to be made whole ($). If you do this repeatedly, I can also ask a judge to restrain you from continuing to do so.

seven2seven8.bsky.social•17 days ago

I'm not arguing that a crime or crimes haven't been committed, but the Alliance for Retired Americans cannot bring criminal charges against Bessent, Musk, or anyone else. This is about controlling behavior and civil liability, not about criminal law, guilt, and sentencing. Two different systems.

atheisthere.bsky.social•17 days ago

Sorry I see what you mean, I was thinking of the actual breach, not the prevention of but that is too late anyway, the system is compromised already.

pattiob54.bsky.social•16 days ago

Unless charges are brought by the state level.

elnderlee.bsky.social•17 days ago

What steps should be taken, now that it’s too late to stop it?

juliecochranereal.bsky.social•17 days ago

If it later turns out that Musk copied the data, lawyers can file a class action lawsuit for direct and punitive damages that a presidential pardon cannot get him out of.

juliecochranereal.bsky.social•17 days ago

It *does* matter. The treasury not only has your banking information, if you got your tax return electronically it has your authorization to take money directly out of your bank account. Elon's copy of the data does not have that authorization.

caemgirl.bsky.social•17 days ago

Absolutely. I don't trust a word they say.

caligirl626.bsky.social•17 days ago

Yes! Public Citizen!

utinam.bsky.social•16 days ago

Oh oh he riled the seniors and they know a thing or two about applying political pressure. Many have the resources necessary as well.

utinam.bsky.social•16 days ago

Couldn't fathom how the country that prizes privacy and individual rights could roll over and say take everything from me including all my money just so long as I get lib tears in exchange.

shaggymain.bsky.social•16 days ago

Republicans would eat their own shit if it means a liberal has to smell their breath.

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