i can totally understand why a lot of people are jumping on the ai ghibli trend and i am not so far gone as to be on the total ai death side of history (i routinely use machine learning tools to help myself with automating boring stuff) but idk man all of this still feels weird for me - ThreadSky

f4mi.bsky.social • 34 days ago

i can totally understand why a lot of people are jumping on the ai ghibli trend and i am not so far gone as to be on the total ai death side of history (i routinely use machine learning tools to help myself with automating boring stuff) but idk man all of this still feels weird for me

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technobaboo.bsky.social•34 days ago

the thing about it to me is you're copying an artist's specific style, that's very different than having a ton of images thrown into a giant blender during training...

it's just... kinda personal so it's weird

fenothefox.com•34 days ago

It's the difference between using AI as a tool to assist and supplement an artist's work and I'm using AI as a replacement for an artist's work. A good example is in the Spiderverse movies AI was trained to place emote lines for expressions at different angles so the artists wouldn't have to do it.

fenothefox.com•34 days ago

But a menial task being automated to help an artist is not the same thing as wholesale taking an artist's style and replacing all of their work with an imitation trained on their art.

treziok.bsky.social•34 days ago

This is the part of the movie where we should be taking those memes outside to behind the shed.

f4mi.bsky.social•34 days ago

i am not even saying it in the “i feel like painters when photography was invented” kind of way but more in the “yeah we have a machine that spits out something that looks like art but it’s sad that

f4mi.bsky.social•34 days ago

it is inevitably limited by the defined set of data it is trained on with dubious authorisation and every single output basically looks the same”

f4mi.bsky.social•34 days ago

i honestly think i will feel different about “ai art” when and if we are going to have agi and get to the point where machines that, at the level of humans, are going to effectively make art to express themselves and how they experience life

f4mi.bsky.social•34 days ago

but right now this feels like idk squeezing content out of a tube, and it can work sometimes but it’s still weird for me

bibbo.swag.observer•34 days ago

yea all this really makes me think about how in creation you should always be striving for the best and better and better and to just be like "ah well" and leave it to the Averaging Machine and then leave so much more talent growth on the floor purely because someone was too lazy

dielebensinsel.bsky.social•34 days ago

I really like your analogy with painters and photography. It's a different tool that generates somewhat similar but, at the moment, very limited results.
Maybe the AI images now are the equivalent of the early big cameras with the bellows. Marvel of technology, impractical limitations, has novelty.

dielebensinsel.bsky.social•34 days ago

Obviously this does not address the ethical issues. I'm on the side of strict AI regulation. With that said, I'm sure early photography had backlash from traditional artists, claiming that pointing and shooting had no artistry.

ibrahiym.bsky.social•34 days ago

Oh ms @f4mi.bsky.social lol

jigglypuff.club•34 days ago

rly can't see anyone happy about this who themselves would pass a Turing test

jabrils.bsky.social•34 days ago

Like all ai trends, the novelty will wear off by next week lol

kushan.wtf•34 days ago

As a dev, I'm also in two minds about the AI stuff. On the one hand it's very useful at assisting me with my work, I'd like to think of myself as a competent dev but the genAI stuff lets me automate the boring shit so I can focus on the good stuff. But I'm not oblivious that the speed up of

kushan.wtf•34 days ago

my work could be conceived as the taking away the job of another developer. If I'm 2x as productive, then my employer only needs 1/2 of the devs, right?

Am I just putting myself out of a job by using it? Or am I just killing off the boring, shitty jobs I wouldn't want to do anyway?

fen.cx•34 days ago

people need to make the distinction between ml models trained on stolen content with the expressed purpose of shitting out "brand new" content, and ml models designed to help people like ocr, object recognition, auto-captioning, etc

eden.smokes.lol•34 days ago

AI is good for assisting a person, but it can't fully replace an artist or a coder.

vapour.is.loot.goblin.fyi•34 days ago

Miyazaki is also VERY opposed to AI "art" so it feels like a slap in the face to one of the most beloved artist and animators of our lifetime.

jordanclock.bsky.social•34 days ago

Machine learning is a technology we've had long before generative models. There's nothing inherently wrong with it. But applying analytical tools to plagiarize art is always going to be bad, whether that's machine learning or not. It just sucks that genAI is the poster child for the tech right now.

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