Don't kid yourself, the Judiciary has been packed with sycophants and intellectual light-weights, it is an illegitimate branch of the government at this point.
Really? I wish. Felon47 didn’t adhere to the judicial freeze on the funding ban. They PROCEEDED. And now Vance is telling us the judicial branch can’t control the executive. They are doing it anyway.
WHO is enforcing the orders????????
It’s great the orders are being issued but EM and DT have already publicly stated they won’t be abiding by those orders. So WHO will enforce them???
You know, MAGA keeps screeching about "BIG GOVERNMENT EVIL AND CORRUPT".. BUT.. There's 2 kinds of big government.. the other kind is a few guys, each with MASSIVE amounts of $$$ and a self-serving agenda.. Thats just another form of ⬇️
👉BIG GOVERNMENT👈
I wish, but Trump will simply appeal it up to the Supreme Court, and we know what will happen there. 😠 And even if Trump loses, he'll probably just ignore the ruling. Court rulings are supposed to be enforced by the US Marshals - who report to the Attorney General - Pam Bondi, a Trump loyalist. 🤷♂️
The coup has been successful. Lawsuits and votes have no meaning now. They have all the power and access to the money. They don't even need Trump anymore. Or MAGA except as a police force to use against those that resist
We do need to get much more organized at our level to start the real protests. We've had several separate ones and those are good but coordinating things would be much better. And we have, at least for now, ways to do that coordination. We need to start using the tools we have to exert the power
From Curtis Yarvin: "They should simply ignore any court rulings that seek to constrain them. They should bring Congress to heel, in part by mobilizing their populist base against recalcitrant lawmakers. And liberal or mainstream media organizations and universities should be summarily closed." 1/2
I can see I will be repeating this a lot but why do we expect him to listen to judges with the whole presidential immunity thing? Lawsuits are not a plan when the asshole is immune.
Presidential immunity applies to official acts as president. All of these things are official acts. This means the federal courts have nothing. And any federal charges against Musk et al Trump can just pardon. Even if he doesn't, if they expect he will they'll do his bidding.
Even if it doesn't apply he would claim it does. Then who is responsible for settling that disagreement? And what kind of consequences can a judge even enforce against Trump when he has a whole team set up to prevent any consequences from impacting him?
Don’t set yourselves up. The judiciary isn’t going to ride in with white hats and do anything of the sort. Next thing is everyone of them will do a Merrick Garland and we won’t see anything for months or years when it’s too late.
The judiciary is saving us ONLY if 47 decides to obey the court order. Who's going to stop him from doing whatever the hell he wants if DOJ and FBI are run by his suck-ups?
GET THIS STRAIGHT - the military needs to be ready to act to enforce the Constitution and keep 47 in check.
It's a stretch. And it SURE won't be Hegseth - he's a bigger suck-up than Bondi or Patel. You'd need someone high enough to command respect and with the guts to defy the president to protect the Constitution who could gather a like-minded task force.
It would require the Joint Chiefs to grow a spine and defend the Constitution in the face of illegal presidential orders. There are already procedures in place for this. It still may not happen.
They can sure try. But if no one follows the orders and there is no one who can or will enforce the orders (US Marshals are under the DOJ) it all just turns into a nice gesture.
So, I'm watching a coup d'etat of my country, by hostile entities Trump, and musk, and we are being asked to have faith in the same justice system that failed to arrest and jail Trump--that ultimately led to his being re-elected (by stupid people) who is now essentially a dictator-king?
why thank you. I have infinite yelling capability. the decibels from my yellings can crush a trump supporter's head and kill the soul of russian trolls.
3/ Follow the trail: Hey, OPM, give us a list of probationary employees and tell us if they are expendable. Oh wait, that didn't work, here's a fake buyout. Oh, wait, that didn't work, here's an offer for early retirement. Oh, that didn't work, let's just steal their info and do a mass firing.
2/ Anyone in their probationary period can be fired without cause. If he wants to make it look "legit" he'll fire those whose ratings are less than average.
1/ It won't matter. Musk has the information of all federal employees, including their rank, pay, performance evaluations, and whether or not they are in their probationary period. Anyone in their probationary period can be fired without cause.
A part of me wants to see the Judicial Branch work with the Military and say “bet”. However I haven’t seen reason or common decency in the government in a while. I just hope the country we build back is better than the one he destroyed.
Yeah, the only thing I’ve seen the military pushback on was the renaming of the renaming of Fort Bragg. I’m not getting a lot of military news, but it feels like they will just comply.
This is where we are, we have all these rules and all these rulings but they don't mean anything if he doesn't comply. It's going to come down to what's going to happen when he doesn't?
And that's basically a civil war. And if that's what it takes SO BE IT. May trump and musk be dealt swift justice by those that still honor the constitution
It's been addressed by George Conway and likely others. It's the end of American Constitutionality and Democracy. The enforcement mechanism of the courts is the US Marshals. They fall under the executive branch of the government and Trump. We're cooked.
Wrong. The judiciary has no teeth anymore. It may think it has but nothing they do will be obeyed by the mob boss and his hoodlums. It's called pissing into the wind.
Does anyone worry that with access to all these systems, he’s not just going through it all, but also stripping millions of usernames and passwords along with the data? For….perhaps a foreign actor, like Russia?
Please tell us HOW the judiciary is saving us! Do you honestly believe the trump administration has the slightest inclination to obey the courts? Who will enforce the TROs or court orders? Will U. S. Marshals? With Bondi at the helm of the DOJ there is no one that will enforce the orders.
Buying out RETIREEs, so Musk (Money Dunce), so Trump so stupid...
The reason they are all taking the deal it's more money and less work.
Musk/Trump are a minus - $1,000,000,000.00 already.
I think some of them are even from Trump (first term) and Bush. Not many, but not all of them share extreme views, especially if they have a solid legal background.
What the actual *?! The White House has designated Mr. Musk’s office, the United States DOGE Service, as an entity protected from public records requests and most judicial intervention until at least 2034, by classifying its documents as presidential records.
Unfortunately, MAGA folks are creating lists like this to get us to block one another. It may be best to block individually when you encounter a troll. At the least, check a list before blocking it.
The GOP MAGA CULT are now seeding the notions that judges are corrupt and part of the cobal. Why? Well Trump has the SC. But he only appointed 21% of the lower judges. The Dems appointed 56% of all lower judgeships. The rest are Bush 1&2, and Reagan appointees who are holding up the constitution.
Does anyone think these criminals are going to abide by these rulings? I sure don’t. And they are in charge of DOJ. There is no one coming to save us. It’s up to us.
The U.S. Marshals Service is a bureau within the Department of Justice and receives direction from the Attorney General through the Director of the United States Marshals Service.
The majority of the Supreme Court are bought and paid for by him, he doesn't have to worry about which side they'll stand on. Even now, Clarence Thomas is packing some Hawaiian shirts for another all-expenses paid deluxe cruise.
I actually want to take the buyout. I have zero interest in working for this administration but I don’t qualify for the normal severance package as I’m a newer employee.
What's the judiciary's enforcement mechanism? If they can't enforce their rulings then what's to stop this coup from cementing it's place and killing what little checks and balances we have? I think we're entering an authoritarian era...
But what if Trump and all his minions keep defying those orders? These rulings are great; but with their hands on all the actual processes, what good are these judgments?
The judiciary will not save us and to believe so is dangerous & naive. At best the judiciary will slow Trump down until he either ignores judicial rulings or bullys Congress into rolling back our laws. We literally have about 2 months to save our democracy by mass protesting.
Bullshit. This will mean nothing when they simply don’t abide by these rulings. Them what? Americans simply aren’t getting how dark the days ahead are going to be.
Dear Americans. You used to tell us Brits about your constitution and how important it was...Well.. I hope one of you had the good sense to make a couple of xerox copies of it because your President and VP seem to have lost theirs...
Some of the judiciary may still be sane but this challenges will end up at the SCOTUS and no 8ne should have any faith they'll stick to the constitution
Question, WHO will enforce court orders and HOW, if - or better WHEN they totally ignore them & proceed with their lawlessness, maybe also call in the military to shield them? Better prepare for this scenario right now.
Just like 2020, because the legislative is SHIT!! The courts, and I mean the lower courts, are our only hope. The Supreme Court better take notice and do the right thing for once, or they will be the END of this great nation.
Biden found a LEGAL means to do student debt relief. He followed the Supreme Court's order and found an alternate path to legally do the relief. Biden didn't ignore the court ruling. He still followed the law. That is not what Trump is doing. He is literally just ignoring the court order.
It will backfire on the SOTUS, when anything POTUS doesn't like, he will ignore. Then they too will be powerless, thanks to their own arrogance and stupidity.
They will ignore injunctions. Then what? DOJ calls in the federal marshals to enforce the law & arrest those who ignore it? Trump’s DOJ? I dont think so. Or perhaps the appeals quickly make their way to the SC, where they will rubber-stamp Dear Leader. Nobody’s saving us but us. #Strike #Boycott
No! Merrick Garbage has totally failed us and the judiciary, which acts at a snail's pace, cannot keep up with the destruction that President Musk has already done and plans to do. It's time for the true patriots of America to rise and take it in their own hands, arm yourselves and organize.
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You cried: “Both sides the same!” for YEARS.
Now pretend
it MATTERS what judiciary says?
You know it doesn’t.
He’s shown us.
He’ll do what he wants when he wants.
Just like:
He doesn’t want another election.
So there’ll be none.
You know that.
So stop posting what you know is bullshit.
He's ignoring the court.
The 'judiciary' is stacked, and there is no recourse.
Didn't you get the memo?
#resist
And what do you think will happen when, (or if), the court attempts to enforce a contempt order?
These days, it's not so much about what a judge CAN do.
It's more about what a judge WILL do.
And if history proves anything, it proves that these 'judges' will do nothing.
Welcome to the Jungle.
The deadline would be forcing people to decide to accept it when the offer itself might not even be legal.
There is no "deadline", it's indefinitely extended.
It’s great the orders are being issued but EM and DT have already publicly stated they won’t be abiding by those orders. So WHO will enforce them???
👉BIG GOVERNMENT👈
Hit back and make sure it doesn't stand back up.
The judiciary is slowing the Coup, not stopping it.
JD Vance by words, and the Trump Regime by action, has signaled they will begin ignoring the Judiciary.
Only protests and uprisings will stop this.
America is in the End Game.
Hakeem Jeffries has told everyone that Democrats are powerless
Watch this video. Easy to dismiss as conspiracy theory but creepy to see it coming true.
https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no?si=4-kVt1o95rUVLVsN
Also this one
https://youtu.be/UQjdwsZhE_Q?si=pBGY7mlt9aU49OIQ
And Trump isn't immune.
A judge is the exclusive decider in a contempt proceeding.
The U.S. Marshals have really, really, really big guns btw. And they know how to use them.
Their badges are also super-sized, on purpose.
A judge can literally imprison Musk in seconds. Legally. Without much recourse. Contempt.
GET THIS STRAIGHT - the military needs to be ready to act to enforce the Constitution and keep 47 in check.
NO ONE ELSE WILL.
Gotta wonder if that could happen at FBI....
I really don't want to see them have to duke it out with DHS.
A-men!!!
A-men!!!!!
A-men!!!!!!!
Could. Not. Agree. With. You. More. If. I. Tried.
I mean, “Justified” was a cool TV show, but…
Or the Secret Service?
You’re either impossibly naive, or are posting in bad faith.
Musk can "disregard" a court order or a subpoena and a judge can direct the U.S. Marshals to drag his ass into her presence.
And they will.
I am neither.
And ANY LEO can arrest him on a federal detainer.
Trump is ignoring judges rulings now
Thank you 🙏
We're saving ourselves.
Send the farmer, the small businessman, the small town lawyer to Congress and the Senate.
As Trump ignores every court order and keeps committing crimes against the Constitution - who is actually stopping him?
He’s going to keep doing that
Now what?
He appointed these Judges!!
REVENGE is a Dish best served cold!
The reason they are all taking the deal it's more money and less work.
Musk/Trump are a minus - $1,000,000,000.00 already.
Let's bankrupt this bitch.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-scott-claims-dems-are-in-the-anger-stage-of-grief-because-elon-musks-doge-is-making-government-transparent/
As long as PINO Trump controls Congress & Justice, he can't do anything, ignore laws and .... move on to the next thing.
Because, WHO will enforce the Courts' orders?
(Yes, I mean Courts' ... not Court's ... he will ignore them all)
"The courts don’t have their own enforcement agency. The US Marshal’s Service is part of DOJ."
Pam Bondi is in charge of DOJ, and she serves Elon/Trump
U.S. Marshals are DUTY-BOUND to FEDERAL JUDGES, not the AG or the DOJ.
A U.S. Marshal can arrest ANYONE for interference of their duties.
There are many arcane things the Marshals do, like the Witness Protection Program, just like the Secret Service does counterfeiting investigations.
94 appointed U.S. Marshals are like Sheriffs. They answer only to the Constitution.
Cue constitutional crisis.
They aren't going to obey court orders.
DARK GOTHIC MAGA: How Tech Billionaires Plan to Destroy America
https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no?feature=shared
Fuck that!
Have rope will travel.
They’re already suggesting that they may defy court orders. They are already attacking judges.
I’m concerned that this is being quickly normalized.
The judiciary needs to show and prove
Aka.. it all just lead back too, Trump. And repeat.
Context, its a voluntary quit.
Maybe they get scammed out of 12 pay checks, idk, but they want to leave and this all makes Chump look good.
https://bsky.app/profile/invadertenn.bsky.social/post/3lhwh2grtxs2y
https://bsky.app/profile/we-all-do-better.bsky.social/post/3lhv2wo6zsc2t
The Nazis don't respect the law.
https://www.vox.com/scotus/398902/supreme-court-donald-trump-too-weak