Conservatives supporting Trump is why Trump won, actually. And people like Kinzinger are responsible for creating the party that elevated Trump in the first place. We can't afford this myopia that focuses on a handful of fringe weirdos over the actual party of fascists wielding power. - ThreadSky

ursa.solar • 104 days ago

Conservatives supporting Trump is why Trump won, actually. And people like Kinzinger are responsible for creating the party that elevated Trump in the first place. We can't afford this myopia that focuses on a handful of fringe weirdos over the actual party of fascists wielding power.

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mskaydee8.bsky.social•104 days ago

You forget that Republicans didn’t support Trump. Only when he gained so much power with “the base” did they jump on board.

thebacklogofdoom.com•104 days ago

That right there is the absolute worst and most terrifying thing about the Trump years. It's not the MAGA cult, that part is easy to understand. There have been cults since we learned to walk upright.

It's all the people who said fuck it, let's go along with the cult for our own gain.

ursa.solar•104 days ago

"The base" are republicans too. That's how democracy works. They chose their leader. Yes, a small number of people at the top didn't initially support Trump, because he represents them losing control of what they created. That doesn't absolve them from creating it in the first place.

ursa.solar•104 days ago

And I don't think people like him deserve forgiveness without repentance. They created this monster, and unless they fully accept responsibility for it, we're only setting ourselves up for failure again. People like him can and will create another Trump. I don't want that. Do you?

darenbaker.bsky.social•104 days ago

aih.bsky.social•99 days ago

cool, I agree, but you're not talking about Kinzinger, he's very open about how his actions led to this and his consequent particular responsibility now to fight against it

ursa.solar•99 days ago

No, not really. He still believes in the myth the the GOP can be redeemed, that this is just a misstep. He does not accept and understand that this isn't an aberration or bug, it's a feature. This is the natural end result of his "true conservatism". It always comes to this.

ursa.solar•99 days ago

Saying "drumpf man bad" is not nearly enough. His ideology is a total failure that consistently leads to fascism everywhere it is tried, and he's still lamenting it as is conservatism didn't fail us, but instead we failed it.

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