Having fun proficiencies in D&D is like half the fun of having a character, right?? Like having many skill proficiencies and tool proficiencies that are niche and driven by backstory??? Why does 5e make it so hard to get more than 4 skill proficiencies and 1 tool proficiency- - ThreadSky

prismagic.bsky.social • 213 days ago

Having fun proficiencies in D&D is like half the fun of having a character, right?? Like having many skill proficiencies and tool proficiencies that are niche and driven by backstory??? Why does 5e make it so hard to get more than 4 skill proficiencies and 1 tool proficiency-

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momottaro.bsky.social•212 days ago

I always give tool proficiencies to my characters and use them to hell and back in any and all given contexts that could feasibly be done with a tool.

prismagic.bsky.social•213 days ago

Non bard/rogue characters only having 4 skill proficiencies kills me. Like I need at least 2 more.

kaindraconius.bsky.social•213 days ago

Some of that kind of has been worked out a bit in Revised now. Since Origin feats can now easily give more skills or tools based on an appropriate background. Still not perfect but it does help this stuff a bit 😊

prismagic.bsky.social•213 days ago

Revised? :o

kaindraconius.bsky.social•213 days ago

Yeah the new rule set for the 2024 books. Most original 5e player are referring to it as Revised in my circles. Hold on I get an examples: Acolytes- Calligraphy, Charlatan-Forgery, Farmer-Carpentry, Guard-Gaming set, Guide-Cartographers, Merchant-Navigator's,Noble-Gaming set and Skilled feat(3+sk/tl

kaindraconius.bsky.social•213 days ago

Basically all backgrounds now have a tool of the trade associated with it, adding to the tool kit and some backgrounds give the Skilled feat (3 skills/tool proficiencies of your choice)

varusai.bsky.social•212 days ago

100% agree. our groups dm usually allows us a bonus starting feat from a limited list (stuff that could be reasonable for a low level character to have) to help with this. either that or just works a skill or tool proficiency in as part of our backgrounds if we discuss it and it makes sense.

phantasmicdream.bsky.social•213 days ago

IIRC, what made Tasha's rules fun is that it gave the option to change racial weapon proficiency to a tool proficiency.

prismagic.bsky.social•213 days ago

Oh that's a good step! I've had too many Elves who had martial proficiency who didn't need them LOL

phantasmicdream.bsky.social•213 days ago

100% get it, I did that for Rabbit and gave him Herbalism, Painting, and Navigating. 🤭

Also IIRC, Tasha's introduced the option of change the starting ability score stats to be what ever you'd want. IE instead of your High-Elf being 2DEX 1INT, you can switch it to like 2CHA 1CON, or 1CHA 1CON 1WIS

levichter.bsky.social•213 days ago

I totally agree. Sometimes i feel that the game kinda forces the character to just go for the niche and dont do anything else besides that, like: Oh you are a fighter: you survive, you backglip, you strong, you bully and thats it dont even try to do anything else because you'll be bad at it

prismagic.bsky.social•213 days ago

I can understand why they would say certain classes lean into certain ability checks, but I feel like you need to just get an extra 2 from your player backstory and then the 2 from class and background, it's too limiting otherwise!!

ke-baberta.bsky.social•212 days ago

I think there's a rule somewhere in the 2014 dmg saying players can spend in game time and gold on a master to get profficency but i could be making it up.

Alternatively consider non 5e ttrpg systems

roleplayundermain.bsky.social•212 days ago

I have a homebrew rule that from their class , they gain 4 freely chosen proficiencies. The two from background are still forced.

But also perception proficiency is forced and is used for initiative for scaling purposes and limit proficiency gain from races to 1.

Works like a charm.

xilentknights.bsky.social•213 days ago

There’s a couple home rules you can implement. One makes the Intelligence stat a little more useful: a free proficiency per +1 modifier or expertise per +2. I also like to invite my players to give their PC’s a backstory based proficiency that’s not on the list. Sometimes it comes up :P

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