Ok so. I think my biggest bug bear is that in a lot of context AMAB and AFAB are basically just being used as a fancy way to call someone male or female indirectly. They're being treated as a static label to describe what someone presently is, and to invalidate a lot of non-binary identities. 1/- - ThreadSky

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sunderedraven.bsky.social • 62 days ago

Ok so. I think my biggest bug bear is that in a lot of context AMAB and AFAB are basically just being used as a fancy way to call someone male or female indirectly. They're being treated as a static label to describe what someone presently is, and to invalidate a lot of non-binary identities. 1/-

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sunderedraven.bsky.social•62 days ago

I've had it said to my face when I've identified as non-binary "Oh but you're AMAB". As if I can't possibly be both.
Part of it feels a bit like grammatical hair splitting as well but the AB in AMAB/AFAB is /at birth/. I'm not presently being born. nor did i choose the assignment 2/-

sunderedraven.bsky.social•62 days ago

3/- Assignment as male was something given to me, done to me, before I could ever have any say in the matter. It has exceptionally limited relevance, and tells anyone very little, about who I am /now/. Now I AM non-binary. At birth I WAS assigned male.

sunderedraven.bsky.social•62 days ago

4/- This isn't to say that the terms don't have their uses, or that I dont see the point for having events and spaces limited in certain ways to allow community to heal and feel safe. It's just.... frustrating a lot of the time to see what should be neutral descriptors used to..

sunderedraven.bsky.social•62 days ago

5/5 ...used to police people's identity based on assumed anatomy.

This... came out a lot ramblier than I thought, but I hope it's at least someone understandable.

betwixtduality.bsky.social•61 days ago

Yes that makes tons of sense. It's hecked that anyone tried to superimpose asab over non-binary. The past tense is a great way to get distance between self and assignment.

I wanna dig up anecdotes about how FLINTA groups handled masc presenting queers partaking. The wound needs healing

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