heartbreaking: grinding solo queue is making me a better player (we beat moonlight in sendouq) (they were very tired) (they were not playing well) (we take those) www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyni... - ThreadSky

zyfetc.bsky.social • 27 days ago

heartbreaking: grinding solo queue is making me a better player
(we beat moonlight in sendouq)
(they were very tired)
(they were not playing well)
(we take those)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyni7U3x__I

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starry-echo.bsky.social•26 days ago

Is there some goal in particular you’re using solo queue to work on? I’ve heard elsewhere that solo is a common builder of bad habits, so I want to hear your perspective

zyfetc.bsky.social•26 days ago

genuinely -- what bad habits/who told you that?

i'm using it to develop individual skills - mechanical consistency, MUCH more adaptation (lots of weird comps/situations you have to win), exposure to good players on more weps, clutching/winning alone, etc.

see also https://zy-f.notion.site/how-do-i-get-the-most-out-of-solo-q-15debe421ede8021b9c5ca7527b35f41

starry-echo.bsky.social•26 days ago

For example, in a lot of the teams that I’ve coached, it’s built habits where players don’t take positive risks/2-for-1 trades because of the fact that soloq punishes you for dying much more than comp (where you trust teammates AND have cooler more consistently).

starry-echo.bsky.social•26 days ago

Let me rephrase the question - what benefits do you see from playing solo q, as opposed to sendouq without vc with random teammates?

In the latter, I’ve seen benefit from map consistency (you dont have to wait till 3am for not-wahoo), where you can get reps on more valuable maps.

Thanks, also!!

zyfetc.bsky.social•26 days ago

the main problems with sendouq are that the queue times can be slow af, sets are often imbalanced (and you're stuck in it for 4 games), and most of all that a random jp 2600 lobby is diamond+ or levi level -> top2k lobbies are literally better than what you can find in sendouq

zyfetc.bsky.social•26 days ago

also, solo is BETTER for map reps cuz there's only 2 of them for 2hrs straight so if u dont learn the map u literally just lose

and there is real value in playing the awful maps
because you're forced to be creative, smart, and mechanically reliable, which WILL help you in weird situations anywhere

zyfetc.bsky.social•26 days ago

wym
dying is *always* not-preferred and 2-for-1 trades can be worth it in solo

the problem is the lessons the person is attempting to draw from soloq, not soloq itself

"i lose when i die in solo" doesn't mean "oh i shouldn't go for anything"
it means get 2 and live anyway

zyfetc.bsky.social•26 days ago

on trusting teammates: why would you do that
i trust my teammates to go for stuff and i posture to go if and only if their idea works out
sometimes ur teammate does something dumb and you must let them die

also cooler doesn't make dying better, you should still live
thats what the qsj is for

starry-echo.bsky.social•26 days ago

Feels like we have similar views but are posing them differently. Obviously dying isn't preferred - I just said that the cost of it is higher when not coolered. And yes, the underlying problem is the mindset going into solo not being conducive to improving play

giosuper8k.bsky.social•26 days ago

@zyfetc.bsky.social very nice matches and i just subscribed to your channel on yt:3

zyfetc.bsky.social•27 days ago

oh #compsplatoon

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