there are some fandoms where whenever I see antis exist I squint my eyes in sheer confusion. are they lost. are they trying to gaslight me. why are you here. you know what series you just watched/read/played right.
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Gonna be real, I had to visit your feed to work out that you were stating the title of a series and not just boldly announcing that OP is a scum villian. RIP
Soulsborne in general is so funny but Elden Ring is particularly hysterical to me given that game exists because Miyazaki went "omg dude I LOVE your incest noncon can you write some for us???" to GRRM 😭
There’s so many of these in Utena fandom that at this point I just save myself the headache and assume they watched the series through gifsets on tumblr
i do want to make clear that whatever makes you uncomfortable in fiction is valid and curating by muting/blocking your timeline is proper etiquette and self-care
antis are a different ballgame, they're basically fandom q-anon and they want you dead for thinking icky ideas existing is part of life
I know it's very easy for people looking in and dismissing antis becuase a) fandom, and b) mostly femme or queers
but I personally regard them as a hate cult who do and will damage people's lives to an irreparable degree because they think getting the ick from fiction makes you worse than satan
both true that
- it's all about stupid, inconsequential garbage that isn't even real
- they've done serious real-world career & health harm to at least 3 people I care about
absolutely. also fact is cults are often based on stupid inconsequential garbage that would be parody if the people involved didn't actually cause people to die over it
This just reminds me how the english edition of Drakengard/Drag-On dragoon did it's absolute best to cover up the most problematic elements from the story and it's still there, because some shit you just can't cover up without fully cutting it.
And I wonder...do people who only played Nier know...
Automata is arguably the "safest" drakenier game and yet 9S is undeniably shota bait (I think the materials state Scanners are based on 16 year olds or something?) so it's even puzzling when I see hardcore 9s2b shippers but they're also antis
and very rape-y one's at that considering the entire existential horror is anchored in how one defines bodily and mental autonomy and what counts as informed consent when your understanding of reality is that malleable and easily reframed at will
They're robots and it's fictional!!!!! They had to ignore like all of 9S's freakout in every way too. I'm also reminded of those that get mad at Kainé/Nier post timeskip because Kainé is underaged still but Nier aged to adult. "Ppl say it's Ending E but she still has her bandages! So she's a minor!"
i genuinely feel sorry for supergiant games for dealing with antis who discovered the entire history of greek myths through hades even after they did their best to scrub out as much incest from the pantheon as is possible. it was a valiant effort.
I'm reminded of the time I discovered the twitter of an artist where they happened to be ranting about how Sesshoumaru/Rin in Inuyasha is grooming and bad and awful and ew
the twist: they were a prominent animator and mega fan for TGCF (Heaven's Official Blessing)
I guess i thought all the kids like Percy Jackson and would have a Greek mythology phase but apparently not? Would not wish age gap discourse applied to immortal gods on my worst enemy lol
i fondly remember sg scrubbing some lines from the beta about thanzag alluding to them being raised like brothers after people complained and then people kept complaining because their circumstances still felt too incesty
people tried to make an interview with the vampire zine banning anyone who's "proship" to apply. most puzzling restriction when you think about what's in iwtv or what anne rice wrote
No proshippers for the problematic vampire show zine, whose original book series was written by Anne Rice, queen of writing Really, REALLY Problematic Shit?? The lack of self-awareness is practically funny at this point. Lord
Organizing a no proshipper zine when the books were birthed by an author who could be labelled as a “proshipper” based on the stories she wrote, is hilarious
this reminds me, years ago a friend of mine got hate from an anti for writing sheith in vld fandom, friend went to look at the anti's blog who had their ao3 linked which the anti was happily writing azula/ozai from atla so like. I always assume the call is coming from inside the house at this point
swear to god every single time you pop the hood of an anti's Likes or creative archives and there's freakier shit there than anything they're complaining about
their boner is pure and self-aware but other people's boners are influenced by the devil
Their excuse is always something like "but I consume ~critically and ~ethically, unlike these 'freaks' who sexualizes/romanticizes this or that, or ships "wrong things", blah blah blah I'm holier than thou"
My favorite example of this is yakuza/rgg. People who love fictional criminals but only if they’re criminals in the right way… brings a chuckle every time
No, you see they are enjoying it in an entirely ethical and wholesome way, not in our filthy, pedestrian ways, which you can do if you combine mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance.
If you look at in a vacuum it's honestly kind of impressive what the human mind can do. Outside of a vacuum I do need them to stop tho, its quite annoying.
truly, though i do enjoy they invented 'complicated ship' to get around the fact that they grew up to discover being turned on by fucked up things doesn't make them bad people but they can't admit they were wrong about the line between fiction and reality
If I could be an anthropologist and just observe these people in the jungle as they ate each other over ship ethics it would be fine but they insist on interacting with rest of us lol
😂 I have an actual neuroscience degree, and the frequency that I think "however this person happened needs to be studied" is not something I anticipated growing up. I get the urge 😜
Yeah. *That* 40k. The one that coined the term "grimdark" with space fascists and neverending war where literally every faction is some shade of evil and morally bankrupt. THAT fandom has antis. Like, pack it in everybody, we're done lmao
I just think of contrapoints in her conspiracy video how these kinds of people hate campaign 'like a man hates porn twenty seconds after he zipped up his pants' which yeah sums it up
Feels like the latter a lot of the time these days, people go in blind and go "wait, nobody told me this grody grimdark setting was ACTUALLY grody and grimdark!!"
[thinking specifically of people who got into Rogue Trader and got incredibly upset and screamed at the devs because all of the morally good decisions have steep consequences in a profession where being a vicious & opportunistic asshole is commonly rewarded, sighs deeply and takes a swig of bourbon]
This is kind of how I feel about Hannibal antis tbh. I don't play the anti/pro label game myself but I have to wonder what's going on in their little heads on that one.
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Like are y'all watching/reading this stuff with your head up your ass? For real.
(Also none of is real 🫠)
antis are a different ballgame, they're basically fandom q-anon and they want you dead for thinking icky ideas existing is part of life
but I personally regard them as a hate cult who do and will damage people's lives to an irreparable degree because they think getting the ick from fiction makes you worse than satan
- it's all about stupid, inconsequential garbage that isn't even real
- they've done serious real-world career & health harm to at least 3 people I care about
If you're impacted in any way, it can be devastating. And you wind up feeling isolated or embarrassed because "oh it's just that silly thing"
And I wonder...do people who only played Nier know...
https://bsky.app/profile/artofchira.bsky.social/post/3lndrmjxj7k2a
and very rape-y one's at that considering the entire existential horror is anchored in how one defines bodily and mental autonomy and what counts as informed consent when your understanding of reality is that malleable and easily reframed at will
and "age" is the line????
the twist: they were a prominent animator and mega fan for TGCF (Heaven's Official Blessing)
guess it's fine when it's gay
cartoon dog witch not real tho
i'm ??????
both to supergiant and to the antis
their boner is pure and self-aware but other people's boners are influenced by the devil
...?!?!!!!!!!!
Yeah. *That* 40k. The one that coined the term "grimdark" with space fascists and neverending war where literally every faction is some shade of evil and morally bankrupt. THAT fandom has antis. Like, pack it in everybody, we're done lmao