JFC. I had a high level clearance for 20+ years and there is a thing called NEED TO KNOW. I couldn't just ask for and receive anything that was classified simply because I had a clearance. How does he even have any type of clearance?
Trump seems to be completely undermining the traditions and values of all institutions. It is his transactional nature that is putting all of our institutions for sale. Let’s all thank Citizens United for selling our country and everything in it.
He doesn't have any clearance from what I understand. space x board recommended him not even apply because he's so far from qualifying for one that it would have risked losing the whole companies clearances.
SpaceX is ITAR regulated and he’s violated NASA rules with drug use so his clearance is iffy but again, like you said, none of that matters now that there’s a coup. I suspect SpaceX wants cheaper labor in China since they have (had) to go through other countries for subassemblies & components.
You're operating under the assumption that any one is around willing to enforce laws. It certainly isn't the executive branch... the law and order branch...I mean why would they. I'm telling you, he's sold us to China. He bought Trump America so he could pay China. There's only one solution.
His lawyer specifically advised him not to go after a higher clearance because it might flag them to look into and take away his current TS. Not that Russian ties prevent a clearance these days…..
My understanding is that one of the first things Trump did is remove any need for security clearance for people he was appointing. You know, because most of them wouldn't pass.
Would that information be of any value to one of our closest allies, like say … maybe … China? Just for example’s sake? Would the person who hypothetically disclosed that information to them, possibly benefit in some way? Just curious.
I don’t believe what they want to make us believe.
This is published by officials on purpose.
Trumps biggest enemy is China.
His new ally is Russia to fight against the world second largest economy.
How is this even legal? Especially with his MAJOR conflicts of interest? Could this be considered more sedition and treason by trump and his administration? It’s not only stupid, it’s blatantly treasonous. Of course, more than likely, trump has already given China and Russia all our classified info
That information needs to be hidden if it isn't already. When he goes to look for it just give him a Chinese menu that's our plan and don't worry the 20-year-olds will buy it
No worries! For China that is. Musk already has nuclear codes & will just shut down StarLink so our military can’t use it. Almost forgot - WH communications already linked to StarLink. Will Xi & Putin have live feed from the WH Situation Room? & know before Chump Trump what we (won’t be able to) do?
I was just listening to you and Anthony yesterday and you made this point I believe this is his way of getting the Chinese government to make up for all his losses everywhere else around the globe just get them to invest in Tesla he doesn’t have to sell any more cars there
What possible justification could there be to allow Musk access to our Top Secret war plans concerning China? (or Russia for that matter) NONE!!!! It has NOTHING to do with reducing fraud or waste. It has everything to do with our National Security. Trump and Musk are compromising the US.
They also loaned him billions to buy twitter. So maybe that information might buy him an out for having to pay it back since Tesla is dying and he’s not going to have any money to pay them back.
If the us does go to war with China, I wouldn't expect any of its former allies to rush and help, and considering its new ally Russia has its hands full with its own war with ukraine, it would be quite foolish to go to war with China, but then again, the us has a fool leading it so who knows.
the biggest existential threat is no longer a U.S. war vs China. It’s WWIII — with China, Russia, and the USA on the same side.
Nobody seems to grasp how much evil we’ve been holding back. But for China, why would you attack the U.S. military if you could aim their weapons at your enemies instead?
But why? Why does he need to see a high level, classified plan about a hypothetical war with China? There is no war with China! So why is he being shown this in the first place? Who asked/offered to show him? This is so random and out of left field, it defies understanding.
More importantly, China is his biggest competitor. This apartheid supporter from South Africa shouldn't even have US citizenship let alone our nuclear secrets. Time for Seal Team 6 to show up.
Why? This is exactly what they're doing with Ukraine already. Who's going to try them and hang them for treason? There is no intact constitution or rule of law. The country is deep in a dictatorship.
Why would musk need any of that info? He's not a DOD employee. He's not part of congress or a secretary. He's not anything! Even some high level govt folks do not have access to potential war plans with China, so why does musk need to have it. He has too many conflicts of interest to have this info!
I think this is exactly why FDT wants him there because he can get all the info and use it however he wants since he is only a government contractor and ‘not held to the same ethical standards’
Heck, he is selling $5 million gold tickets to become U.S. citizens. I don't doubt for a minute that the classified documents Trump stole have not been revealed to others for a fee.
Obviously Trump is deliberately instigating WW3 it is past time to admit that SCOTUS abused their power by allowing him to run. Justice Roberts needs to implement an unprecedented ruling to get him out.
Judges can still enforce their rulings against him in spite of SCOTUS unprecedented decision to give Trump "absolute immunity for whatever he does within his core presidential duties." It's NOT a core duty to instigate a fight against our allies or to deliberately cause harm to Americans.
Besides it was the SCOTUS that gave him absolute immunity right? So anything he does is a "presidential act". Its all bull. Those in power don't care as long as they get what they want. More power. More money.
Although I agree with your statement, let's be clear that SCOTUS gave Trump "absolute immunity" only for whatever he does "within his core presidential duties". They know they abused their power, they've seen the results. It's up to them to undue the damage before it's too late.
But they WONT. They basically said that being a candidate was an official act. They don't want to be impeached so they won't do anything. I mean he is calling Barrett a dei hire now because she ruled against him. It's crazy. He and fElon admitted they cheated and nobody did anything. We are f@$$#$
What if Musk's team of hackers has hooked up *every* agency to StarLink, so he can control everything? (or hand control over to Russia or China) Scary thought...
Does anyone know if “we the people” can file a lawsuit against DOGE and the government for allowing a non-elected official access to our systems and our personal information?
thanks, Cat. really trying to squash this "balls" things. really wish we would stop refer to courage w a male genitalia description. happy to find a kindred spirit on this!
Hey there! 👋 Even if someone could care less about being “PC,” non-gendered, non-genitalia oriented options are so much more accurate & impactful. I prefer equal opportunity insults like coward a-hole spineless POS. Same for the best compliments- courageous, hilarious, kind, creative, & resilient.
I've got ovaries and balls, but my leg doesn't work. I'd happily do something if I wasn't dying. Whoever finally does will be a hero for all eternity, especially if they obliterate 14 birds with 1 stone. How epic would that be.
Well, Hitler totally nullified, in essence anything that could stop the fascists, in about 100 days or less. Trump et al. are only following the Nazi’s methodology.
To the rest of the world its gobsmacked how easy it's been for musk to pretty much take over USA just because he's rich you have absolutely no safe guards to stop him.
considering how the entire U.S. torture (sorry, “rendition”) program and domestic NSA phone surveillance was invented / executed by two random lawyers who realized that with cheney’s backing they could blow through all the safeguards and no one could stop them, more people should’ve seen this coming
He uses his son as a human meat shield on his shoulders, made his Nazi and Apartheid roots blatantly obvious, and wants to rule the fucking WORLD (and Mars).
To most of us here in the U.S., as well. It's pure INSANITY! The safeguards were the forefathers thinking that the Congresscritters and SCOTUS would uphold their OATHS.
#WhatTheMusk is a PRIVATE citizen, abuses Ketamine, and impersonated his own "double" to flood Twitter with praise for himself.
Don’t let the recent court decisions dissuade, this agency firings reek of a huge bait and switch. Why such disarray? What is being done that needed a distraction this big? It’s always gonna be greed.
But then he screwed it up anyway. He’s obliterated his own massive wealth, and his hand and brand is toxic. All his own doing and a sign that he’s badly drug-damaged.
I think that tesla is used as a distraction and I think the real prize was SpaceX and starlink contracts. I think Trump is going to award him our space program. The FAA already gave him $2.4 billion to upgrade all of our COM’s including our military COM. It’s very dire. Worse than we thought.
The longer term strategic plays are SpaceX and Starlink. And with regard to those, China’s probably the most likely competitive player of greatest concern and challenge to Musk’s financial interests in that regard. But the EV & battery stuff matter too.
Musk already makes more profit from SpaceX than from Tesla.
Tesla is publicly traded/owned/controlled.
SpaceX and Starlink are NOT - and Musk is positioning himself to be the main (if not de-facto sole) supplier of space/country telecommunications access.
If I thought they intended to use Musk as an agent of misinformation to "leak" false information to China, I'd be OK with it, but I don't think Hegseth, Gabbard, and Trump are that smart.
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For those wondering, guess who he runs to first with his insider information; Putin or Jinping.
I’d guess Xi. Wouldn’t want to lose the only market for his top quality swasticars. Not much of a market and none of his factories in Russia. Yet.
Did this idiot graduate from the National War College ? He can’t even run Tesla correctly. I saw someone post we need a Project 2029 Project. Think it’s a good idea, written by left leaning scholars and Constitutional experts. The reversal of this fascist racist administration.
Our country's history is playing out like a bad B movie. We are all on the Titanic heading for the iceberg while the dems play violins and people are too stupid to find their muster stations. All because of a wannabe mafioso who looks like yam tits and shits his pants.
He’s actually the president, he just needs a born in the country puppet to do what he wants. He thinks after buying the presidency he’s entitled to all the information a president is.
I’ve been hearing from observers since 2015, “just when you thought you’d seen the worst”, he’d do another terrible thing.
But in my worst nightmares I couldn’t have imagined the scope of damage he has wrought since 1/20. And the politicians either cheer him on or stand there hand wringing.
China would destroy us. They send one virus our way and it crippled us for years….please stop with this nonsense. Republicans are going to get us all killed
These people strive to make themselves our gods, Musk especially with his promotion of technofeudalism. Fuckin’ hell, we CANNOT let these disloyal, traitorous pieces of shit get on top. They’re attempting to doom our home to a fate that was never meant to manifest, capitalism collapsing or not.
I envision Elon Musk photocopying the US defense and intelligence plans, and then going to the Chinese Embassy and getting down on his knees presenting his loyalty by handing over all of US intelligence and military plans to the Chinese government.
From my understanding, he has a hugh FACTORY & assembly line, his crap cars are being built in china? 🤔🤷♀️
So he has a great working relationship with them.
He even went wining to HUMPTY about the tariffs costing him tons of money to build more crappy cars.
He did a terrible deal in China. This was in exchange for access to the technology. Now they are making much cheaper versions and nobody is buying Tesla. A big reason why his stock is down is this China deal.
Elon has never been an innovator, he waits till an innovative company is available for purchase, then he buys it. The only credit I will give him is that he is a gifted venture capitalist. The Engineers and Scientists at Tesla, Space X, and even Twitter were the people who were truly gifted.
Being a rich guy that people who need money for their great idea doesn’t make him a great venture capitalist. He’s there and available to ask, that makes him a loan shark.
Why does musk have any right to potential information regarding China and the government military? He is not an elected member of our Congress. If he can have access why can’t you and I have access. He’s nothing, Except he bought trump.
Well, it’s just so they can get a Deepseek opinion on it and compare it to a Grok opinion and a ChatGPT opinion. You know, just to see. What could go wrong?
Once again, it's corruption in plain sight. While this Admin weakens our security, the richest man in the world, finds more ways to grift the American Taxpayers. 😡
He's Trump's closest adviser as he attacks American citizens. Works with Russia and China, while betraying and threatening Ukraine by controlling their internet and security system access.
and now disclosed Musk fumes and seeks retribution. Of course Trump said was 'fake news' so which is it? What does doge have to do w national security plans?
When the dust and death settles on the end of this fascist regime and fox 'news' is trying to blame liberals, Democrats, progressives, and every marginal group in America for what happened, remember, this hellscape dismantling America was built by them, encouraged by them, and enabled by them.
This is beyond ridiculous, why would you give someone so compromised this information??? Some of this is probably obvious to anyone with a good sense of geography and military planning but still wouldn’t want ANYONE who didn’t need it seeing it! Loose Lips Sink Ships #America
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Explain again why a foreigner form South Africa who's heading up "cost cutting" efforts has a "need to know" American's most important, most heavily guarded military secrets?
He has contracts with China and a huge Tesla/Battery facility there. He has meetings with Chinese leaders. There is NO position in this govt for Musk! He is a loose cannon and is a national security threat at the highest level!
Lol. They never cared about making government more efficient or the price of friggin eggs. They were not sure how far they could push it, and now they know. Where is the resistance? Where is the military who is supposed to defend against all enemies, foreign AND domestic?
Yeah, the tuff Marines pounding their chest, barking out "Semper Fi !!!"-- where.the fuck are they??
Is everything they said they stood for just horseshit?
This video confirms the danger Musk, is to the American People. Chinese government makes Donald Trump look like a harmless little old man. To allow Musk complete access to all our secrets. It is like giving him the codes for nuclear bombs. He can destroy us at any time. He has to Go with Trump.
What happened to the days when War, China, or Russia was used in a sentence? And Americans would stop and become alarmed. This article has used the words War, China and Elon. And nobody is ready to knock down the front doors at the White House. Remove this convicted Bastard! DAM We are screwed
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Salute TOO SOON.
The coup has blown up.
They will never get it back on
the rails🤣
No doubt they’ll try everything
they can think of.
Brace for impact~they WILL
resort to force.
Musk’s net worth is plunging because of the the drop in Tesler’s overly inflated share prices.
As well the loss of StarLink contracts in Canada & Mexico.
National Security Threat #2 in the Oval Office is panicking.
Maga trump and his enablers made a quick turnaround to disctedit the leak posted by the New York Times. They didn't want it to be found credible. The staged meeting didn't fool anyone but a maga. We're wise to their bait and switch tactics.
@vanhollen.senate.gov @alsobrooks.senate.gov @hoyer.house.gov Elon Musk has no business in high level military meetings. Especially not when he is heavily invested in the country in discussion. Can you put an immediate stop to this??
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This is published by officials on purpose.
Trumps biggest enemy is China.
His new ally is Russia to fight against the world second largest economy.
Trump: Lost two popular votes, but convinced people to storm the Capitol.
Both had followers willing to go way too far.
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“China will not even be mentioned or discussed,” Mr. Trump said in a late-night social media post.
And now, somehow this is happening???
Please wake me from this nightmare.
Give an unstable, drug addled, foreign national with ties to that specific country...
Oh wait, Hegseth's also at the DoD etc...
Nevermind it's just another day in Trumpistan
Nobody seems to grasp how much evil we’ve been holding back. But for China, why would you attack the U.S. military if you could aim their weapons at your enemies instead?
January 6th will look like child’s play. His body will be thrown into the ocean. The military wouldn’t stand for it.
The word is "hanged" 🤣
Nobody was hunted down. Nobody was hung for treason.
The army stood for it.
Maybe it will end this farce quicker tbh
They don’t care about common folk.
We have more power than we think.
😡😡😡😡😡😡
Trump needs his orders from Pappa Putin, I guess.
What could possibly go wrong?
Treasonous behavior comes to mind… selling out our democracy and our allies…
dtrumpf is beyond unfit to serve the American people
He only serves himself and those who buy him off
Tax cuts and Top Secret documents are for sale to the very rich..
Impeach 47
We're in for a very bumpy ride all easily avoidable if adults were in charge.
No one has a thing to say about this?
No one?
TERRORIZED DAILY BY AN IMBECILE AND HIS PERSONAL RETRIBUTION
So much for a lifetime of hardwork and hope
Only the ignorant of history or power mad …
Yes. Where we are…
MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST…
This is so wrong 😑
#WhatTheMusk is a PRIVATE citizen, abuses Ketamine, and impersonated his own "double" to flood Twitter with praise for himself.
What the fuck is wrong with Congress?
Do they think when we're attacked the enemy is going to look out for them?
These people are cowards.
Our intelligence community and military should stop this from happening if Congress won't.
I don't care what it's called. Stop the coup!
The longer term strategic plays are SpaceX and Starlink. And with regard to those, China’s probably the most likely competitive player of greatest concern and challenge to Musk’s financial interests in that regard. But the EV & battery stuff matter too.
Tesla is publicly traded/owned/controlled.
SpaceX and Starlink are NOT - and Musk is positioning himself to be the main (if not de-facto sole) supplier of space/country telecommunications access.
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I’d guess Xi. Wouldn’t want to lose the only market for his top quality swasticars. Not much of a market and none of his factories in Russia. Yet.
They’re both getting whatever they want out of him and his new best buddy trump.
(Joke)
'We welcome the upcoming war games off our coast' -- can't say that.
'We condemn any action planning the use of any force against China in any way' -- can't say that, either.
I reckon it's about forming an Axis with China & Russia, actually.
But in my worst nightmares I couldn’t have imagined the scope of damage he has wrought since 1/20. And the politicians either cheer him on or stand there hand wringing.
Remember, in his ketamine addled mind, he is the King of Mars. No nation matters compared to him.
So he has a great working relationship with them.
He even went wining to HUMPTY about the tariffs costing him tons of money to build more crappy cars.
🤔🤭🥴💙⚖💙🤭💙
He handed the technology over on a silver platter!
HORRIBLE business practice.
Stay in his lane.
Oh nooooo how long until we get in trouble for using our free speech to hurt elons little feelings.
😁
He's Trump's closest adviser as he attacks American citizens. Works with Russia and China, while betraying and threatening Ukraine by controlling their internet and security system access.
#Starlink is a direct link to Putin.
#Espionage
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When Trump talks of being tough on China and Russia, I always think it's fake, staged...
https://x.com/mrsbutters/status/1900635337321517497?s=42
Call me old fashioned but giving access to state secrets to a non vetted person who happens to be his major donor is treason.
Trump is completely insane and making a mockery of the office of President.
How should we remove him? Goo Gone? Acetone? Space Force?
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So Elon has no security clearance and Congress is totally cool with this? Really?
More importantly, how will it reduce the price of eggs?
Is everything they said they stood for just horseshit?
Salute TOO SOON.
The coup has blown up.
They will never get it back on
the rails🤣
No doubt they’ll try everything
they can think of.
Brace for impact~they WILL
resort to force.
As well the loss of StarLink contracts in Canada & Mexico.
National Security Threat #2 in the Oval Office is panicking.
Damn trumps america!