You can bet Elon will try to make a buck off death and destruction. Lotta government money in the drone and missile biz.
Elon loves that tax money.
The great genius/corporate welfare queen.
Who are you referring to- Elon or the felon? Cause I’ve been wondering this all morning since the war plan crap came out- is Elon playing the felon- after all he’s in bed with Xi and Putin. Or are they all working together w the felon to take down the US?
Boeing haven’t been doing so hot lately. And why do we need this boondoggle—or boingdoggle— at all. Who are we going to fight? Lichtenstein? Andorra? Grenada again? Panama? Greenland? It will be an expensive flopski.
Given Boeing’s major ongoing design and quality problems, I’m struggling to understand how TF they were even considered in this competition, let alone win it.
I bet whatever the cost of the "new" F-47 plane, it will be the best and brightest of all airplanes. There won't be any other plane like it anywhere, in the history or the world, or even the planet. Only the brightest and best.....
Without any national discourse, we just spent A TRILLION dollars on 5th generation fighter aircraft. Also, Obama quietly continued the nuclear arsenal modernization which ALSO COST A TRILLION FUCKING DOLLARS! So, sure, open your wallets again everyone because Boeing isn't doing so well!
If Boeing is going to make the F-47 it will never get off the ground, given their track record on the 737-Max, 787, Boeing Starliner space capsule. It will end up being another overpriced boondoggle with nothing to show for it.
So much for saving tax dollars. The F-35 is still a very capable jet - albeit, still not quite as good as the F-22 in some ways - and we're looking at the F-47?
The cost is not going to give away its tech. Taxpayers should know the cost. The F-22 was canceled because it was insanely expensive. ->
I don't know, but I'd bet he has stock in Boeing. If he didn't before, he probably does now.
What I can say with near certainly is, if its going to be 300 now, it'll be over 400-million in less than 10-years. The F-22 started out at 140 and ended at around 370, top spec.
And as I've pointed out department expenditures before, the current sale cost will be nothing compared to the actual cost. It has to be low enough to get approval, win the contract, etc. but costs will overrun. Is the taxpayer looking at a $200+ million jet?
F-22's were not built in large enough numbers and are aging out, and a high speed interceptor the F-35 is not. Need something that can dominate the airspace.
The F-22 halted production because of its cost and cause the price to skyrocket even more.
Whether the F-35 is good enough or not, if the F-22 was canceled due to cost and had an entry cost of around 140 million, the same is likely to happen to the F-47 with an entry cost of 350 million each.
Its all part of already ongoing NGAD project. It was in makes for years now. And this f 47 is to flatter orange turd. It will be renamed once its actually done.
We are doing this to save face since China is beating us at everything tech and they will continue to do so.
No way they ever lose money. They never did. They’ll keep fleecing DOD. What will happen is they’ll rush it to show we are not lagging behind. NGAD is same deal as F22 ,not to be exported. Thats why EU, UK/Japan all already started their 6th gen separate projects .
I'm pretty sure at 300 million each, they'll never order as many as they planned. The cost will keep ramping up so high, it'll eventually get capped and canceled.
Not even a fraction of a percentage of a chance in a hope. 😄
I would guess, based on how advanced the F-22 was at the time and its entry cost versus it's eventual cost, in 10-years, a $300-million F-47 is likely to cost $400-million each.
More, the longer the program runs, due to upgrades/support.
Imagine being so disconnected from reality and life itself that you don't even need people involved in war. Just watch Real Steel or Robot Wars on TV ffs
That would be great! A whole lot less suffering. But how would the military contractors (& Elon) make all their money if they don't need to build bombs & tanks & ships & "F47" jets?
Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly confirmed Wednesday to journalists that Canada has been in negotiations with European government officials about a joint defense alliance that would include joint procurement projects.
It'll be a uge, uge plane. The likes of which nobody has ever seen.. uge.. but I can't tell you how much it'll cost, I don't want you to know how uge.. But it'll be big, uge
I'm NOT an aeronautical engineer or expert. BUT it seems like some MIT grad would be working on high tech scramblers that would bring any drone down & push any missile off course.
Machinery ALWAYS has a weakness.
ALWAYS.
The REAL Tesla- (Nikolai) knew this.
Probably because they knew better than to tell you any! They knew you'd tell Daddy Vladdy. You wouldn't UNDERSTAND them, but you could still tell Daddy Vladdy what they were!
Exactly.
Trump is trying to make up for lost revenue when our allies no longer trust us to make weapons for them due to his embrace of fascism.
That is billions each year foregone in foreign revenue to switch to supporting evil dictators.
The MAGAts can't see a problem with that.
There's a difference between piloted aircraft fighting wars successfully and piloted aircraft being used to generate support in places where building them provides shitloads of jobs.
I hate that they talk so brazen about a war with China..it scares me to death.
I want more Jimmy Carters in the world than this war hungry mother, F'er, and that goes for Netanyahu and Putin🖕
SpaceX and Boeing compete for gov't rocket subsidies.
Trump announces fighter contract for Boeing.
Musk tweets fighters should be replaced with drones.
Musk meets with Pentagon officials.
Boeing pulls out of space competition.
Pentagon pulls out of support for fighters.
Boeing sinks into oblivion.
Congrats to Boeing - see if they can deliver now. Air Force wants these despite Elons latest proclamation - Elon’s just mad he didn’t get an automatic winning bid from POTUS
Doesn’t matter how big it is, not a single ally will now order any weapon in US, to risk the same issues Ukraine was facing with weapons being remotely disabled?
I live in Everett, Wa where many of my neighbors work for Boeing. I'm glad the company will be hiring many they laid off.
But Musk is wrong about drones and hypersonic missiles replacing Fighter/bombers with pilots. The day hasn't come when they are not useful.
It’s going to be so expensive each plane …. Why’s that ? Oh because you stabbed your allies in the back and joined Russia .. so no one is going to buy them.
Clearly the price is so secret he can only trust his cabinet with the National security information. For his information, Europe won’t be buying, they are going home grown military tech, they have well educated employees and top manufacturing, people are closing their doors on this administration
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Elon loves that tax money.
The great genius/corporate welfare queen.
It is confusing
Why is he so obsessed with size?
Nevermind, I don't want to know!
Aha! The enemy's new plane's tail is 16 square feet.
"What about the speed, weapon fit-out, maneuverability?"
For that price I can only give you stats on bits of the plane. It's tyres are inflated to 40 psi.
"AND?"
There's a 30% chance it is blue underneath.
-=E
4=L
7=ON
I did it. I deciphered the code
Felon-47 is a moron
https://www.twz.com/air/boeing-wins-air-forces-next-generation-air-dominance-fighter-contract
Leon showing how brilliant he is once again.
If you pay him he will tell just you ! SSH it’s a secret!
This Contract Award Is FAR From Over.
(Sorry, The Pun Was Literally Unavoidable).
The cost is not going to give away its tech. Taxpayers should know the cost. The F-22 was canceled because it was insanely expensive. ->
What I can say with near certainly is, if its going to be 300 now, it'll be over 400-million in less than 10-years. The F-22 started out at 140 and ended at around 370, top spec.
Each copy of the jet, once series production commences, has been estimated in the past to cost upwards of $300 million."
Well, that explains why he didn't want to say.. Fffuu.
Whether the F-35 is good enough or not, if the F-22 was canceled due to cost and had an entry cost of around 140 million, the same is likely to happen to the F-47 with an entry cost of 350 million each.
We are doing this to save face since China is beating us at everything tech and they will continue to do so.
I think the contract will end up limited and Boeing will probably lose money on it.
It's been a long time, but I think they originally were going to buy far more than that.
I would guess, based on how advanced the F-22 was at the time and its entry cost versus it's eventual cost, in 10-years, a $300-million F-47 is likely to cost $400-million each.
More, the longer the program runs, due to upgrades/support.
We really need an edit button. 😊
Trump is lying again.
Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly confirmed Wednesday to journalists that Canada has been in negotiations with European government officials about a joint defense alliance that would include joint procurement projects.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2025/03/20/facing-trumps-threats-canada-shifts-defense-links-away-from-us/
Damn you K-hole!
Machinery ALWAYS has a weakness.
ALWAYS.
The REAL Tesla- (Nikolai) knew this.
the art of the deal, you know!
F1 cars & many high volume car companies like GM, MB, and VAG use structural adhesives.
They work well but cost more than welds so they are used sparingly.
Problem is cheap glue on body panels because the high tolerances on drilling mounting holes is too challenging.
(Cue the circus music)
Seriously, good luck with that. I'm glad my spouse is retired from fighters.
Trump is trying to make up for lost revenue when our allies no longer trust us to make weapons for them due to his embrace of fascism.
That is billions each year foregone in foreign revenue to switch to supporting evil dictators.
The MAGAts can't see a problem with that.
When …. NEVER!! 😡
The more you strive to make people forget about something, (like heroic Black soldiers) the more people will think about it.
When it applies to forgetting people, they’ll ensure those names grow more powerful with time.
I want more Jimmy Carters in the world than this war hungry mother, F'er, and that goes for Netanyahu and Putin🖕
God damnit !
Their commercial jets are quickly becoming famous for being dangerously shoddy and other countries are canceling military orders because of Chump.
I wonder what kind of graft was built into that deal thought. That was too fast for DD.
Next week Doge will zap that contract as waste.
Funny how we aren't cutting defense contracts, size of the military, etc...only the things that benefit the common folk.
Leopards, etc...
Trump announces fighter contract for Boeing.
Musk tweets fighters should be replaced with drones.
Musk meets with Pentagon officials.
Boeing pulls out of space competition.
Pentagon pulls out of support for fighters.
Boeing sinks into oblivion.
If they weren't both also evil it would be funny.
#thestupidithurts
But Musk is wrong about drones and hypersonic missiles replacing Fighter/bombers with pilots. The day hasn't come when they are not useful.
He's got a small pee-pee 🤭
or he thinks AI should make kill decisions