Лайфхак для колег вестернів, якщо їм треба пояснити що казати треба Kyiv not Kiev: "if you can pronounce "naïve", you can pronounce Kyïv 💁‍♀️" #kyivnotkiev - ThreadSky

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mathan.dev • 4 days ago

Лайфхак для колег вестернів, якщо їм треба пояснити що казати треба Kyiv not Kiev:

"if you can pronounce "naïve", you can pronounce Kyïv 💁‍♀️"

#kyivnotkiev

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kevinlikesmaps.bsky.social•4 days ago

oh wow ok of course I know how to pronounce both, but I hadn't linked the sounds in my mind

a French person told me that и is basically like é but I'm skeptical

mathan.dev•4 days ago

Also, English shchwa "æ" should be pretty close in this particular case. Or dropping the "и" sound altogether since it's pretty short anyway.

vsv.bsky.social•4 days ago

I think you meant [ə] instead of [æ]

mathan.dev•4 days ago

yeah, that one

imposeren.org•4 days ago

basically ї is almost йи, so knowing naïve you know both и and ї

sutnistj.bsky.social•4 days ago

Ex, krašče bulo bı tut «w», a ne «v». Ščodo vımovı, to tut vse skladno, bo dlja dekotrıx ⟨naïve⟩ možeʼ matı vımovu jak [nɑjɪjv]. Te same zô zhadanım tut ⟨eve⟩ — [ɪjv]. Najblıščıj konstrukt [ɪjɪ] možna znajtı, jakraz perevažno na stıkax /i/ + ⟨ing⟩, sjudı ž pôdpadaʼ i spoluka ⟨yi⟩.

sutnistj.bsky.social•4 days ago

Prıčomu možna prıpsjačıtı popered i «k», tomu navedeneʼ ⟨key⟩ možna peretvorıtı na ⟨keying⟩, sjudı že: ⟨skiing⟩. Treʼ lıše zamênıtı [ŋ] na /w/. Ale, znov že takı, dijalektı možutj matı svoju realizaciju, xex.

Prosto čerhovi moji rozdumı, xex.

andrij-h.swifties.social•4 days ago

Я зазвичай пропоную поєднати слова Key та Eve разом. KeyEve. Kyiv.

ostakoth.art•4 days ago

У них як раз зі звуком И проблеми

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